Wednesday, July 29, 2020

Gravity of a flat Earth

        First let me remind you, if I may, that the force of gravity is the attraction that exists between any two masses. We feel it as "weight", but it's expressed mathematically as the force of attraction between our body mass and the mass of the planet beneath us.

        If you placed two cricket balls on a flat surface, not touching, there would be an attractive force between them. To be sure, it would be negligible, but mathematically it would exist. We can calculate it, in fact.

Data:
Gravitational constant G = 6.673 x 10-11 N m3 kg-2
m, Mass of each ball 0.163 kg
d, Distance between their centers (say) 0.12 m

Formula:
f = G mm/d2

Calc:
f = 6.673 x 26.5 x 10-14/1.44 x 10-2
f = 12.28 x 10-11 newtons.

        Of course, the force of attraction between a cricket ball and planet Earth is not negligible at all. It is the ball's weight, or its mass multiplied by the acceleration due to gravity.

0.163 x 9.8 = 1.6 newtons

        We could calculate the atraction between a cricket ball here on Earth and the planet Mars. It would be even more ridiculously negligible but, again, mathematically it exists.

Expat rides a hobby-horse:
        If you're American, you've been taught that an object of mass 10lb also has a weight of 10lb by definition, and isn't that convenient? Yes, it's convenient but it's also confusing. It accounts for the misunderstanding of the difference between mass and weight in the average American mind.

Flat
          All right, enough of the Grade 6 physics. Let's think about a flat Earth. Such a concept is usually depicted roughly thus, an obtuse cone:

Consider a man standing in the center:

        That's him, standing proudly erect, with the force of gravity as a vector acting vertically. It's perfectly possible for him to feel the same gravitiational force as he does on a spherical Earth.

        But now, get him to walk half way to the edge of the flat Earth.

        If he tries to stand vertically, he's got a problem. Consider the planet beneath him as two pieces, separated by the vertical line. The right piece is way larger than the left piece. It is therefore also way more massive, and exerts much greater attractive force on our man than does the left piece.

        The gravitational vector is not, in this case, vertical, and our man is going to have to lean left to avoid falling down.

        I've attempted to draw the vector such that it bisects the flat planet.

        Now let the man walk all the way to the edge. The gravitational vector is now almost horizontal.

        This model may be flat, but to its inhabitants, it would seem like a rather steep-sided bowl.


Refutation 
       Of course, we don't need any more reasons to refute the claims of flat Earthers. We already know that the Earth is a solid sphere. But if you should happen to find yourself having a beer with some of those maniacs, try telling them about the gravity vector on their hypothetical planet.

Friday, July 24, 2020

NYT chases UFOs again

        Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean were two of the authors of the New York Times article of 16th December 2017, revealing for the first time that the US Navy was interested in unexplained things in the sky. The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification program had spent $22 million investigating reports from some of its pilots that they had observed distant objects that did not appear to be behaving aerodynamically.

        To say that this caught the attention of ufologists is an understaatement akin to saying that Donald Trump is mildly interested in being elected to a second term. DISCLOSURE AT LAST!!!! they screamed. But, as this blog reported at the time, there was no indication that the Navy or its pilots favored an extraterrestrial origin for these phenomena, and in any case the whole program had been de-funded and shut down in 2012, having reached no conclusions.

        Now Blumenthal and Kean have published again, in an  article headlined No Longer in Shadows, Pentagon's U.F.O. Unit Will Make Some Findings Public which ran in yesterday's editions. They reveal that AATI was shut down in name only, and in essence was simply renamed and made part of the Office of Naval Intelligence.
« Despite Pentagon statements that it disbanded a once-covert program to investigate unidentified flying objects, the effort remains underway — renamed and tucked inside the Office of Naval Intelligence, where officials continue to study mystifying encounters between military pilots and unidentified aerial vehicles.
Pentagon officials will not discuss the program, which is not classified but deals with classified matters. Yet it appeared last month in a Senate committee report outlining spending on the nation’s intelligence agencies for the coming year. The report said the program, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, was “to standardize collection and reporting” on sightings of unexplained aerial vehicles, and was to report at least some of its findings to the public every six months.»
The Russians are coming?
       Yesterday's piece will doubtless be a major disappointment to the UFO crowd, as it documents the fact that Navy Intelligence is not very interested in extraterrestrials.What concerns them far more is the possibility that these artifacts are advanced aviation developed by a hostile foreign power, representing a real threat to US defenses.
« While retired officials involved with the effort — including Harry Reid, the former Senate majority leader — hope the program will seek evidence of vehicles from other worlds, its main focus is on discovering whether another nation, especially any potential adversary, is using breakout aviation technology that could threaten the United States.
Senator Marco Rubio, the Florida Republican who is the acting chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told a CBS affiliate in Miami this month that he was primarily concerned about reports of unidentified aircraft over American military bases — and that it was in the government’s interest to find out who was responsible.
He expressed concerns that China or Russia or some other adversary had made “some technological leap” that “allows them to conduct this sort of activity.” »
        Of course, nothing will curb the enthusiasm of MUFON — not even the arrest of one of its executive directors on a charge of soliciting sex from a minor — but at least the rest of us can take comfort from Blumenthal and Kean's report that no extraterrestrial attack is imminent.

        In a related blog, Jason Colavito comes to similar conclusions about Marco Rubio's recent UFO comments.

Thanks to James Oberg for monitoring

Monday, July 20, 2020

Hoagland says this is conspiracy month

"We're in the midst of an interplanetary war".

        That was Richard Hoagland, early in last Saturday/Sunday's Other Side of Midnight blogradio show. His guest was Christopher Knowles, who calls himself a symbologist — and having such an anti-science person around seemed to encourage Hoagland himself to stray far, far away from anything to do with verifiable fact.

        The first of many ridiculous connections he made was between the US Navy's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, revealed by the New York Times on 16th December 2017, and the recent fire on USS Bonhomme Richard in the Navy Yard at San Diego.
26:06 "The US Navy is almost at the center of a real awakening, and a deepening of the whole idea of Unidentified Flying Objects being intelligently controlled by somebody. And then a ship of the line — another aircraft carrier — based in San Diego suddenly catches on fire, and there's an explosion that is heard 13 miles away, after the fire starts. If that doesn't spell sabotage I don't know what does."
        So an explosion during an extremely hot fire is taken as evidence of sabotage? Right, Richard, got it. What was that you were saying about your science credentials?

Everything's a symbol, apparently
        In case you were wondering what a "symbologist" is and does (and certainly I was), Knowles then proceeded to illustrate it by constructing a tottering edifice of symbolic meaning out of completely random events. I didn't follow it all but it went something like this:

        First, Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested on 2nd July, "World UFO Day" and an anniversary of the Roswell crash. Then, the following day, Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) Executive Director Jan Harzan was arrested in Newport Beach, California, for allegedly soliciting sexual activity from a detective who was posing online as a 13-year-old girl. Then on 18th July the cathedral of Nantes caught fire, causing extensive damage. Meanwhile, a comet was in the sky and we all know that comets are harbingers of bad luck. There's another San Diego connection there, since the last easily visible comet — Hale-Bopp — was the occasion of the mass suicide of a San Diego cult, "Heaven's Gate".
38:52 RCH "These are thoughts on a chain that is incredibly meaningful to only a certain few. And everybody else just dismisses it as a .. as..Oh! Coincidence!"
CK: "Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This has been a very strange month."
        Seems to me that this chain of events is only meaningful to people who don't require any evidence in order to draw a conclusion. To say that Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested on 2nd July, and Nantes cathedral had a fire 16 days later is not coincidence, IT'S NOT ANYTHING.note 1

        So now we know what symbologists do — they make stuff up. Fans of nonsense like this got a chance to hear it all over again 24 hours later, when Hoagland re-ran it owing to yet another power outage in New Mexico. That's been happening an awful lot lately.

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[1] If Harzan had been arrested on World UFO Day that would certainly have been an ironic coincidence, but that's not what happened. Pull Me Under, the blog of UFO Watchdog, just published a useful guide to all the legal problems MUFON leaders have suffered.

Friday, July 10, 2020

The plague and Joseph Farrell

        Last Tuesday, a case of bubonic plague was confirmed in the city of Bayannur, Inner Mongolia. This follows two cases in Outer Mongolia a year ago and another suspected case in the same area five days ago. Both the recent cases are thought to have resulted from eating marmots. Heavens, marmots!! First it's birds, then snakes, then bats, then pigs, now cute little furry critters -- whatever next?


Gasbag
        Joseph Farrell is another gasbag like Steve Quayle and Richard Hoagland, beloved of talk show hosts because you just have to press their button and away they go, needing almost no questions to prompt them. Talk shows inevitably introduce Farrell as  having a doctorate from Oxford University — which is true, but the doctorate is in patristics (a branch of Christian theology) and lends no particular authority to theories about the Nazi Bell, interplanetary warfare, psyops and the "secret space program"—all of which topics Farrell has published on, and pontificated about ad nauseam.

        Two days ago, Farrell vlogged about the bubonic plague on his web site, The Giza Death Star. He speculated that the coronavirus pandemic is just a rehearsal for the real whammy, a worldwide bubonic plague pandemic that will kill millions. People who pay attention to Farrell (and that only occasionally includes me) are quite used to his alarmism. A contributor to the Paracast Forum wrote just the other day:
« . He's saying the [corona]virus was released as part of a deep state operation to bring down Donald Trump. He's saying that Dr. Fauci very likely engineered the virus himself, in Wuhan China, and he was responsible for its release. He's saying nano-tech particles have been found in the genetic makeup of the virus, but that this scientific information has been suppressed by the media. He's saying Bill Gates stepped down from Microsoft in 2014 in order to oversee the global spread of the virus. But, at the same time, he's also saying Covid-19 isn't nearly as dangerous as the media is making it out to be, so he refuses to wear a mask when he goes out. »
        By all means pay attention to Dr. Farrell, but only if the topic is Christian theology. On the subject of pandemics, he has no useful information to impart.

Saturday, July 4, 2020

Kerry Cassidy stranded in UK

        Kerry  Cassidy never made it to Corfu, where she was planning to scout for a video documentary on the subject of Empress Sisi. Her flight from UK to Corfu was cancelled at the last minute, which she ascribes to .a sinister plot by the Illuminati.

        "Empress Sisi", more properly Empress Elizabeth of Austria and Queen of Hungary (1837-1898) was a legendary beauty who married Emperor Franz Josef I at the age of sixteen. The Corfu connection is the Achilleion palace, that the Empress had built in 1890 as a retreat for herself and her entourage.



        I dunno, if I was planning a docco about the Empress I'd start in Budapest — but then, I'd be stuck with goulash and tokaj rather than moussakà and retsina. Kerry is known to be a fan of Greek island life (I wonder if she gets naked on the beach, as so many tourists do).

        The empress was assassinated in Geneva by Luigi Lucheni, an Italian anarchist. I  had to LOL when I read Kerry's 30th June blog. This is her version:
« She was killed supposedly by a lone gunman type person…using a knife but indications are it was an illuminati hit »
        Actually it wasn't a knife but a 10cm needle file. Lucheni had travelled to Geneva intending to assassinate the Duke of Orleans, pretender to the throne of France. Unable to find the Duke, who had already left, the assassin used Empress Elizabeth as a target of opportunity, saying "It did not matter to me who the sovereign was whom I should kill." I'm not a skilled historian by any means, but I can see no "indications" that the Illuminati were involved. Like all good anarchists, Lucheni just hated the aristocracy.

        Other "indications" that Kerry Cassidy is one sandwich short of a picnic are also in her blog. She notes that she refused to wear a face mask on the BA flight, and calls those who did "lemmings." This is her take on the worldwide attempt to control the coronavirus pandemic:
« There is no doubt these lockdowns are arbitrary and all about population control and aimed at destroying economies.  How long heads of countries are going to continue to kiss the ass of the Illuminati-pedo-reptilian-draco rulers is anyone’s guess »
Update July 20th
Kerry is now in Turkey, denied entry to Spain and Greece, denied transit through France. She says she wants to go to Ibiza — I wonder what's there? Oh, I know, nude beaches!

Sunday, June 14, 2020

The wheels of justice grind slow but fine for SDM

        This blog last noted the antics of Sean David Morton on 19th October last year, shortly after the braggart filed an INFORMAL APPEAL RESPONSE TO GOVERNMENT BRIEF from his Texas jail cell. I noted at that time that, of the half-dozen or so points he cited on appeal, denial of counsel without a Faretta hearing was probably his best point.

        Twelve days ago, 2nd June, the Ninth Circuit finally handed down its judgement—thumbs decidedly DOWN on every single point in the appeal. On Faretta, the justices wrote:
« A district court is not required to follow a particular script in the course of a Faretta colloquy, but it “must insure that [the defendant] understands 1) the nature of the charges against him, 2) the possible penalties, and 3) the dangers and disadvantages of self-representation.”  Here, the record indicates that Morton was fully informed about the charges and possible penalties he faced. Morton’s suggestion that the court was required to say more about the elements of each charge, and the government’s burden of proof, is unavailing. See Lopez v. Thompson, 202 F.3d 1110, 1119 (9th Cir. 2000) (“In assessing waiver of counsel, the trial judge is required to focus on the defendant’s understanding of the importance of counsel, not the defendant’s understanding of the substantive law or the procedural details.”); United States v. Robinson, 913 F.2d 712, 715 (9th Cir. 1990) (“[P]erfect comprehension of each element of a criminal charge does not appear to be necessary to a finding of a knowing and intelligent waiver.”). Moreover, the district court warned Morton that it would be “foolish” to proceed without counsel given the complexity of his case, the difficulty he was likely to have observing the Federal Rules of Evidence and presenting his defense, and the experience and skill required to perform effectively at trial.
Morton confirmed that he understood the court’s warning, but nevertheless wished to represent himself at trial. On this record, we conclude that the district court’s Faretta inquiry was constitutionally sufficient and that Morton knowingly, intelligently, and unequivocally waived his right to counsel. See Erskine, 355 F.3d at 1169 (waiver is valid when the record indicates that defendant “knew what he was doing, and his decision was made with eyes open.”) Similarly, the district court did not err by denying as untimely Morton’s motion for appointment of counsel at sentencing. Although “a defendant who has waived his right to counsel may nonetheless re-assert that right for the purposes of a sentencing proceeding,” Robinson v. Ignacio, 360 F.3d 1044, 1059 (9th Cir. 2004), there are “times when the criminal justice system would be poorly served by allowing the defendant to reverse his course at the last minute and insist upon representation by counsel,”  This request was one of those times. Morton did not make his request for counsel until the end of the sentencing hearing, and after the court had heard extensive argument from both parties. His request came just as the court was prepared to announce its sentence. Under these circumstances, we conclude that the district court correctly rejected as untimely Morton’s request for appointment of counsel.»
        The court shot down all Morton's other points of appeal with equal thoroughness, coming down particularly hard on the allegation that the justice system was "out to get" Morton because of his writings and reputation.

        So this arrogant and self-promoting villain, who has said all along that his skill at legal matters would surely defeat the charges against him, is now humiliated and forced to serve out his sentence. He should be in the can until September 2023, unless he's been on good behavior (which is hard to imagine considering his belligerence.)

        Suck it up, Morton. You're a criminal, a con-man and a liar.


Thanks to AE, this blog's legal eagle

Monday, June 1, 2020

James McCanney tells it like it isn't

        James McCanney is the electric comet guy, the Planet X guy and one of the foremost of the Apollo deniers. Phil Plait has done a good job explaining how wrong McCanney is on most topics in astronomy. So has Stuart Robbins, here.  One that "Bad Astronomy" didn't catch (Stuart Robbins did, here)  is his statement that Venus is tidally locked to Earth. It isn't true (The synodic period of Venus is 583.92 days, and its rotational period is 224.701 Earth days retrograde) but the Earth-Venus system does have the unusual property that Venus shows almost exactly the same face to us at successive closest approaches.note 1. So probably McCanney once heard the above true statement and misinterpreted it to mean the UNtrue statement that Venus always shows us the same face.

        McCanney is a recurrent guest on Coast to Coast AM, although his appearance a week ago (26th May) ended a 7-year drought. C2C likes to promote him as a Professor of Mathematics and Physics from Cornell, although he hasn't taught at Cornell since the 80s.

        For many years McCanney was warning "Planet X is coming!!" He cited the observations of Tom Van Flandern and Robert Harrington, who declared in 1989 that they had spotted an incoming planet four times the mass of Earth, visible only from the Southern hemisphere. Now, explaining why Planet X still hasn't arrived, McCanney says it turned into the Hale-Bopp comet, discovered in 1995. Moreover, he said, there was good evidence of intelligent signalling from Planet X. Well, that's awfully wrong. Planets do not turn into comets,note 2 and if there had been good evidence of signalling, it would have been front-page news.note 3

        Conscious, perhaps, that McCanney's statements were at gross variance with conventional astronomy, George Noory asked "Why is NASA afraid to admit these things?" This was McCanney's answer:
"I can't answer your question but I can tell you it's a top-down thing, and the people at NASA are under strict gag orders. People from NASA can't just walk up to the microphone and say something. It goes through an official release, OKed by people like [?] Tony Phillipsnote 4, people like that."
        I've interacted quite a bit with NASA scientists in my career, and I've never come across one who was gagged or even felt as though they were.note 5

Power and water from the air
        McCanney has a pending patent on a wind generator that not only generates local electric power but also extracts water from the atmosphere.


        The generator is now being installed in units from 2 to 250 kW, and McCanney (rather optimistically, I think) asserts that one day it will entirely replace nuclear and fossil fuel energy sources.

        On Coast to Coast AM he proudly said that the WING generator had won the 2018 Water Abundance X Prize, $1,500,000 . That's not actually true—the winners were The Skysource/Skywater Alliance, but McCanney's generator was awarded a $150,000 second-place consolation prize.

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[1]  The interval between successive close approaches of Venus to Earth is equal to 5.001444 Venusian solar days. So at each  closest approach we see just half a degree more on Venus's West edge, and half a degree less on the East, than at the last closest approach (at the equator that works out to about 53 km). An astronomer would have to live for 2,219 years to see a full rotation of Venus at closest approach.

ref:  Atmospheric tides and the resonant rotation of VenusIcarus, Nov. 1969, Thomas Gold and Steven Soter.

[2] ...or vice versa. Another of McCanney's errors is the fantasy that Venus was once a comet.

[3] Again, Phil Plait has nailed the Planet X fallacy expertly.

[4] It sounded like "Tony Phillips" but I don't know who he means. No such person is in the list of official NASA spokespersons.

[5] One who I spent a lot of time with during the Viking missions was Chief Scientist Gerry Soffen. What is Gerry most remembered for by writers? He was the first to show the image of  "The Face on Mars". Gagged? I don't think so.

Saturday, May 9, 2020

Adrenochrome and fantasy

James Concannon writes... 

       Adrenochrome is a real compound, chemical formula C9H9NO3, the result of the oxidation of the hormone adrenaline (C9H13NO3).

        What is not true is that adrenochrome is a potent psychotomimetic/hallucinogenic drug having effects on the brain similar to those of LSD (C20H25N3O). It is not a controlled substance in either the USA or the UK, although it may be mildly psychoactive in some people at some dosages.

         What is even less true is that the only source of "the good stuff" is a living human body, preferably that of a child.

        What is less true even than that is that Hollywood celebrities, addicted to adrenochrome, have abducted large numbers of children and kept them in cages as a source of their recreational drug.

        Least true of all is that 2,100 caged children were rescued from five different underground bases in California by US Marines on 14th October 2019. That nauseating lie was promulgated by a guy from Wisconsin called Timothy Charles Holmseth, first on YouTube and then on a web page dated 1st April 2020. This was no April Fool's joke—Holmseth followed it up two days later with a "report" expanding the story from 2,100 to 35,000 and from California to three other States. Robert Morningstar swallowed the story hook, line and sinker, and re-posted it on his Foolbook page five days ago. Morningstar is an educated man—a Fordham University scholar, he tells us often—so why is he spreading this garbage around? I suspect the answer is political. The ridiculous fiction known as Pizzagate showed us that the propagandists of the extreme right wing in the USA (and that includes Morningstar) are interested in connecting any democrats with pedophilia and other forms of child abuse. According to an article in Spectator USA, propagandists of the extreme right (Q-Anon) circulated a rumor in 2018 that there was a video showing Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin mutilating a young girl in order to harvest adrenochrome from her terrified body. As if.

The Truth
        The truth is that the potency (and availability) of adrenochrome is all in fiction. Under the name drenchrom, it gets a mention in Anthony Burgess's dark dystopian novel Clockwork Orange. But the primary source of misinformation is Hunter Thompson's 1971 book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Hunter Thompson himself admitted that he made up the part about adrenochrome. The movie adaptation even shows Johnny Depp taking a hit:

Universal Pictures, 1998

        The whole idea of harvesting adrenochrome from adrenal galnds was a plot point in the FICTIONAL TV series Inspector Lewis (2008).

An obsession

Timothy Charles Holmseth describes himself as follows:
 “Timothy Charles Holmseth, 51, Minnesota, is a former radio broadcaster, government reporter, magazine writer, song writer, author, and publisher…recognized with first place awards for news reporting and column writing by the North Dakota Newspaper Association including Best News Series, as well as awards from Boone Publishing.”
The Frank Report investigated these claims and wrote:
He was never a “radio broadcaster” – just a guest on an internet podcast. Never a Government reporter (whatever that is) – and never wrote a magazine or song anyone knows of. Search of the ND Newspaper Assn site shows they never heard of him – and Boone Publishing doesn’t give awards.
        It is sort-of-true that Holmseth is an author and publisher. Amazon books lists five works self-published by him. The topics of all five are, guess what? Pedophilia and child abuse. Holmseth also claims to belong to some organization called the Pentagon Pedophile Task Force. The internet fact-checker Lead Stories debunked the whole pack of lies yesterday, confirming that there is no such thing as the Pentagon Pedophile Task Force. A blog in March 2018 detailed Holmseth's criminal record.

...and this is the man who Robert Morningstar wants us to believe.


Sources:
Wikipedia
Minnesota’s Timothy Holmseth finds trouble with his Q-Anon conspiracies
The truth about adrenochrome
Timothy Charles Holmseth is not what he appears to be (YouTube)

Tuesday, April 7, 2020

Kerry Cassidy has a theory

        Kerry Cassidy just released the audio of an interview she sat down for with some flaky outfit called Above Duality. There's some indication that the interview was actually recorded a week earlier, but it was clearly in the thick of the current COVID-19 pandemic, because that was Kerry's first topic.

        She explained that the entire population is infected by the SARS-CoV-2, but symptoms only show when the virus is "activated" by 5G transmissions. Well, that should be easy to check. As we all know, Italy and Spain have been particularly hard hit by the pandemic (deaths 16,523 and 13,897 respectively as of today).

        Vodaphone has launched 5G in the following cities in Italy: Milan, Turin, Bologna, Rome and Naples.  Are SARS-CoV-2 infections clustered in those cities? No, they are not. No part of Italy is unaffected.



        Here are the top 12 regions/cities in Spain affected by COVID-19:


       Ten of those regions have 5G available to some extent. 5G has not been implemented in either Toledo (Castile-La Mancha) or León, the third and fourth regions on that list. 5G is, however, rolled out in Màlaga, Gijon (Asturias) and Santander (Cantabria)—cities/regions that have, so far, so few cases of infection that they are not even on that list.

       I might just add that many countries such as Iceland and Brazil, that have no 5G yet, have not been spared from the symptoms, and the deaths. Far from it. 5G is in 40 countries world-wide, COVID is in 190.

A unique interviewer
        Kerry reviewed the years she has spent interviewing what she calles "whistleblowers," claiming that she was the first to do this. She said she is enormously helped in her interpretations of the information she gets by her superior intuition. She also praised her particular technique:
48:08 KC: I'm a very unique interviewer, and I challenge my witnesses. I also tend to kind-of play a cat-and-mouse game with them, to get them to tell the truth. And I'm also, I'm able to discern when someone is falling into what is kind of a... a recording in their head, that they then speak from. And so they get ... their tone tends to get very monotonous. There are tell-tale signs of programming. And I tend to break them out of it by asking ..and interrupting them, and asking them questions, sometimes completely what appears to be off topic. And I also have help during these interviews from ETs. ... that are tapping into me and giving me information.
        I've only heard a tiny fraction of Kerry's interviews, so I can't say how true that is generally. However, at one point I did listen to the whole of her interview with Ken Johnston in February 2016. She utterly failed to challenge Ken's often-told story about seeing NASA technicians airbrushing out stars in the Apollo photographs, and let other allegations slide right on by, too. As I blogged at the time, she went off on a tangent about Brian O'Leary that was patently untrue. So on that basis, my opinion of Kerry Cassidy as an interviewer is that she's useless.

Update 13th April
        Kerry C. now has a new page in which she lays the entire blame for COVID-19 on George Soros. It's so disgracefully anti-semitic that I'm not even going to link to it.

Update June
        On 8th June the government of New Zealand announced that there were no longer any active cases of COVID-19 on the islands. Well done the Kiwis.

Meanwhile the deployment of 5G continued....

Sunday, March 29, 2020

"No epidemic in Seattle" says Mike Bara

        Mike Bara just posted this mini-video [NOW REMOVED FOR VIOLATION OF YT GUIDELINES: i.e. BLATANTLY UNTRUE] of him walking through the Emergency Room at the Auburn Medical Center south of Seattle.

        There are no lines of panicked patients, no dead bodies on gurneys. Bara concludes by saying "There is no COVID-19 epidemic whatsoever in Seattle."

        The Seattle Times would disagree. Yesterday the paper published these maps of the trend:



        Auburn and Seattle are both in King County, where 136 of the 2,077 confirmed cases have died.  The trend histogram clearly shows exponential growth.

        The Medical Center's web site makes it plain that visitor restrictions are in effect, and patients who believe they may have the symptoms of coronavirus infection are advised to call before coming to the facility. Visitors are being screened (surely Bara must have noticed this??), and those with symptoms are not being allowed to enter the premises.

I think Mike Bara is looking in the wrong place for victims.

I never said they were on the streets, did I?
        Mike Bara's followers (see YouTube comments) clearly think he's proved that the entire COVID-19 scare is a hoax perpetrated by the New World Order to facilitate their global takeover. But there's a deeper level of paranoia even than that. Last week Kerry Cassidy tweeted TANKS SEEN IN DOWNTOWN L.A. She then showed a picture of tanks loaded on train cars.

Thursday, March 19, 2020

No, SARS-CoV-2 was not deliberately created for population control

« Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus. »

« [T]he high-affinity binding of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to human ACE2 is most likely the result of natural selection on a human or human-like ACE2 that permits another optimal binding solution to arise. This is strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation. »

        The above are direct quotes from a letter published in Nature Medicine on 17th March, two days ago. The title is The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2, and the authors are Kristian G. Andersen1, Andrew Rambaut2, W. Ian Lipkin3, Edward C. Holmes4, and Robert F. Garry5.

1. Department of Immunology and Microbiology, The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, CA, USA
2. Institute of Evolutionary Biology, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK
3. Center for Infection and Immunity, Mailman School of Public Health of Columbia University, New York, NY, USA
4. Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity, School of Life and Environmental Sciences and School of Medical Sciences, The University of Sydney, Sydney, Australia
5. Tulane University, School of Medicine, Department of Microbiology and Immunology, New Orleans, LA, USA

        Anyone who still believes that this virus is a product of conspiracy to reduce or "cull" the human population is invited to Read the fucking article.

Sunday, March 8, 2020

Richard Hoagland and Sharry Edwards™

        Last night on his blogtalk chatshow, Hoagland tackled a highly topical subject, with the help of some people who were not just "fringe science" figures, but well beyond the fringe. This was his sell:
"Amid all the fear and misinformation currently swirling around the rapidly worsening global "coronavirus situation," tonight we present new scientific hope for those most vulnerable to the disease.
A few weeks ago, as a means of amplifying their demonstrably positive medical effects, I suggested that Sharry Edwards' revolutionary "bio-acoustic resonance" protocols -- using specific sound frequencies to eliminate harmful viruses and bacteria in humans and their pets -- be carried out inside one of Charlie Ziese's "torsion-field amplifying" modern pyramids.note 1
The first of a series of such "pyramid resonance experiments" has now been carried out -- with some truly remarkable results ... and global implications." [emph. added]
        I missed the show, but I was intrigued to know more about these "demonstrably positive medical effects". Here's what an internet search revealed.

Institute of Bioacoustic Biology and Sound Health


        Sharry Edwards™ runs an outfit called 'The Institute of Bioacoustic Biology and Sound Health" in Albany, Ohio. Among the claims on the Institute's website I found these:

" the sounds of the voice can act as a holographic representation of health and wellness."

" is it now possible to reverse diseases and traumas previously thought to be incurable."

"The effects of BioAcoustic Biology ... have unlimited health and wellness potential."

"The research being conducted by the Institute of BioAcoustic Biology is on the forefront of energy medicine; creating the doorway to our next dimension of health revolution. In addition, the techniques hold promise in answering questions about how our universe was formed."

Remarkable talent, she says
        Sharry Edwards herself (who inexplicably appends a ™ to her own name) makes no claim of academic achievment, but writes that she has a remarkable talent.
"My sacred story eludes me because my unusual talent was present before my memory begins, hence I don’t know how my ability to make history by creating the future, will evolve."
"I can hear and duplicate the sounds/frequencies that people need to balance and become well.  My mission is to provide the tools and solutions to the public in the hopes of making a difference and selfishly hope my time on the planet will leave it a better place."
        This is, apparently, a "talent" that can be learned. The Institute of Bioacoustic Biology and Sound Health offers several training courses, for example:

BioAcoustic Basics Technician Course, 2 days
$300, plus yearly renewal fee $300

BioAcoustic Professional, 5 days
$5600 inc. equipment, plus yearly renewal fee $400

..but it's NOT medical
        Applicants for these courses are required to sign a "Confidentiality agreement," from which they learn:

  • this technique is not a medical treatment and ... it is not presented, either expressly or implied, as a medical treatment.
  • Sharry Edwards is not a licensed physician and is not holding herself out as a licensed physician nor as practicing medicine.

        So, OK, Ms. Edwards™ is running a business. Nothing wrong with that, but what seems to be missing here is any of that "demonstrably positive medical effect" or "elimination of harmful viruses and bacteria" that Hoagland wrote about. It looks very much as if he was making claims for Edwards™ that she herself couldn't deliver.

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[1] Here's Charlie Ziese's web page."All pyramids are passive torsion generators, and therefore producers of chi/prana/orgone/aetheric energy" — see what I mean about "beyond the fringe"??

Wednesday, March 4, 2020

BRIEFING: How viruses work

        I recently had occasion to refesh my memory about the nitty-gritty of protein synthesis, and how viruses capture the resources of a cell to force it to generate the nasty proteins with which they would like to take over the world. I thought it might be appropriate, as we face the possibility of a major global pandemic, to deliver a blog-lecture on the subject. Use this as a reference when the topic comes up in your office or at your dinner-party—you'll have the benefit of telling the true story instead of the panic-story or the conspiracy-story.

[Plugs in laptop, gets Powerpoint up, shows first slide]



        I'll start with DNA, the familiar double-helix nucleic acid. Each of the two complementary strands is made of linked molecules called nucleotides. There are only four to choose from: Cytosine, Guanine, Adenine and Thymine (C,G,A,T) Wherever a C appears in one DNA strand, there must be a G in the complementary strand, and vice versa. Wherever an A appears in one DNA strand, there must be a T in the complementary strand, and vice versa. So a section of DNA, unwound, is schematically like this:

T A C T T G G A C A C A T G C G A A G C T T
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |

A T G A A C C T G T G T A C G C T T C G A A

        The bonds indicated by vertical lines are not strong, so the helix can and does unwind into two separate strands. One of two things can then happen: either each strand can pick up the nucleotides it needs to make it double-stranded again, in which case it has replicated, OR a slightly different nucleic acid strand may be created using a gene from within single-strand DNA as a template.

        This is messenger RNA, written mRNA, and it's not quite exactly like a single strand of DNA. Where DNA uses thymine, RNA uses uracil, so a strand of mRNA derived from the upper strand shown above would be like this:

A U G A A C C U G U G U A C G C U U C G A A

        The job of the mRNA strand is to find a cellular structure called a ribosome, which is capable of translating the string of nucleotides into a string of amino acids, which then fold up to become a protein.

        mRNA feeds through the ribosome three letters at a time, each set of three (called a codon) representing one of the 20 possible amino acids according to the genetic code so brilliantly worked out by George Gamow, Francis Crick, Sydney Brenner and others. 

        The leftmost triplet in the string I'm using, AUG, is an almost-invariable START signal, and the amino acid it normally codes for is ignored. Thereafter, this particular string would decode as follows:


A U G | A A C | C U G | U G U | A C G |C U U 
 START          Asn             Leu             Cys             Thr           Leu ....etc...

Here's the entire code, in chart form:


        Notice that, just as AUG means START, there are three codons meaning STOP: UAA, UAG, and UGA. 

         The amino acids are brought to the ribosome packaged with a short RNA strand called Transfer RNA (tRNA), The tRNA molecule presents a triplet of nucleotides to the ribosome for matching to the mRNA strand at its current position. For example, the amino acid Leucine is coded CUG in the above example, in the mRNA sequence. So the tRNA wrapped around Leucine needs to show GAC as a match. This is called an anti-codon.

How viruses exploit this machinery
        Most viruses consist of an RNA strand from a few thousand to a few million nucleotides, coding for between 2 and 2500 proteins. The RNA is wrapped in a protein envelope called a capsid. The virus gains entry into a cell by attaching spikes called peplomers to receptors on the cell membrane. It's unlikely that the receptors are there simply to make life easy for a virus—more likely the receptors have a more benign function that viruses have learned to exploit.

        Once inside the cell, the viral RNA has a few distinct strategies for replicating and being expressed (decoded). I'm going to write about three of these.

Retroviruses use an enzyme called reverse transcriptase to turn themselves into double-stranded DNA, which then inserts itself into the host genome at a random site. The normal machinery of the cell takes over the task of replicating and expressing the viral sequence along with the rest of the genome.

Examples of retroviruses: HIV, HTLV (Human T-lymphotropic virus)

        One technique for gene therapy is to use a disabled retrovirus as a carrier to insert a good copy of a gene into the genome of a patient in whom that gene is missing or incompetent. In principle, a wide range of genetic disease, including some cancers, might be eliminated by this means. However, clinical progress has been slow and some accidents have happened.

Positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses are the most common form, and include the following list of threats to human health:

Coronavirus
Hepatitis-C
West Nile
Dengue
SARS and MERS
Common cold

        The descriptor "positive-sense" means that the viral RNA mimics normal mRNA perfectly, with all codons reading correctly including the start and stop sequences AUG and UAG. A coronavirus is about 30,000 nucleotides long in total. So the (+)ssRNA goes straight to a ribosome and says "translate me." The ribosome obediently churns out proteinnote 1, and one of the first proteins produced is an enzyme that assists in replication of the viral RNA itself.

        To make things even worse, (+)ssRNA keeps the ribosomes so busy that normal protein synthesis is inhibited.


Negative-sense single-stranded RNA viruses are the same but written backwards. Before they can be expressed, they first have to be converted to positive-sense by RNA polymerase. These viruses are in general much more complex than the (+)ssRNA type, and generate capsid-enveloped copies of themselves that then extrude from the cell and go off to do further damage to other cells.

Notable examples of (-)ssRNA viruses are:

Ebola
Marburg
Measles
Mumps
Rabies
Lassa
Hepatitis-D
Influenza

How do viruses learn these tricks?
        Of course, viruses could not possibly have evolved as external to cells—"knowledge" of how protein synthesis works would be essential for a virus to develop a way of exploiting it.

        In my opinion, viruses must have originally evolved within cells and later been ejected, or the co-evolving cells died off leaving the viruses as evil survivors. If that's correct, (-)ssRNA would be the original form and the other types evolved later from that form. There's even a theory that viruses evolved as the first living forms, and more complex entities followed along.

Extraterrestrial life?
        Knowledge of these detailed living processes makes me a skeptic when it comes to the question of life elsewhere in the universe. As we learn more about how common planetary systems are, people say "with all those trillions of possible sites where life could have evolved, it's ridiculous to think that planet Earth is the one and only place it actually happened."

        I say no, it's not ridiculous at all. The intricacy of the processes I have described in this blog-lecture is such that, to me, it could only happen once in this particular way. If there is a form of extraterrestrial life somewhere, it would have to have its own rules  and its own chemistry. I doubt if we'd even recognize it as life if we had a sample of it.

Could some of these viruses be artificial?
        In other words, the question is "could some laboratory have created and released coronaviruses as a biological weapon, or a deliberate population-reduction strategy?" 

I don't know. I doubt it. Ken Cuccinelli, acting deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, recently said this:
 "I will say the reading that I have done of medical professionals suggest that the structure of the virus seems unlikely to have been man-made because if it was made to be a threat, you would expect to see certain characteristics that aren’t present.
I have no idea what he meant by "certain characteristics."

 This analysis might be helpful.

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[1] The ribosome delivers all the protein encoded by the viral RNA connected up in one long chain. A biochemical called a protease chops that chain up into functioning protein packages. One strategy that has already had some success against the HIV virus is to find a way of attacking viral protease, disabling it and thus thwarting the virus's life cycle. Anti-viral drugs that perform this trick are called Protease inhibitors, and an inhibitor effective against coronavirus is a subject of intensive research.

Tuesday, February 25, 2020

Mike Bara and wormholes

        Mike Bara, the world-famous theoretical physiscistphysicistnote 1, was given the second half of Coast to Coast AM last night. The peg was the 78th anniversary of the "Battle of Los Angeles"—an event that saw anti-aircraft crews peppering a weather balloon in the mistaken belief that it was part of a Japanese attack. Bara, naturally, preferred the version of the story that  makes the balloon into an extraterrestrial flying machine piloted by LGM. You either believe that or you don't. I don't, personally.

        That little fantasy wasn't nearly enough to fill the allocated two hours—even allowing for the torrent of commericals C2C is now allowing itself—so George Noory moved on. "Of all the things you've investigated," he said,"which one gets you the most excited?" I thought Bara would say "The Bermuda Triangle" in order to plug his most recent book (which has been hammered by Amazon reader reviews). But no, what gets Mike all fizzy today is wormholes. He said "I believe wormhole technology has been solved. It'll be announced later this year. We'll be able to travel faster than light to the stars!!!"

        Well, y'know, there's no such thing as "wormhole technology" and never will be. It's not a technology and hardly even a science—more of a mathematical exhibit. Wormholes are a theoretical consequence of general relativity, invented (as a means of space travel) by Kip Thorne more as a way of teaching relativity than a speculation about what we humans might actually be up to in another 1,000 years. I like to think that Prof. Thorne rolls his eyes somewhat when he hears of half-educated nincompoops like Mike Bara misunderstanding his work.

Change at Châtelet
        My question to wormhole-believers is this: Supposing you did find the entrance to a wormhole. How in hell would you know where in the universe it pops back up into reality? It might not be anywhere you're remotely interested in going. If you're lost in Paris, you can always study the map of the Métro and eventually get it. «Direction Porte de Clignancourt, six stops, change at Châtelet, direction Mairie des Lilas, four more stops.» But in a womhole-rich universe, there's no Métro map and no changing at Châtelet. You disappear and re-appear in some location over which you have no control. Is that really practical, do you think?

        Another problem is that, unlike the Paris Métro (other than during industrial strikes, of course) there's no guarantee that a reverse hole exists to get you back home. Like the failed Mars One scheme of a few years ago, it's a one-way ticket if it's a ticket at all.

        Oh God! It's just occurred to me that perhaps the reason Bara made this topic his front page headline last night was because that'll be the subject of his next book. God save us, and save the trees!!!

Update:
        In the movie of "Contact" it's not made clear, but in fact Carl Sagan had the idea that a very advanced civilization might be able to artificially construct a two-way wormhole specifically for the purpose of superluminal travel between points A and Z. That's like closing the Paris Métro except Line 4, then closing all the intermediate stations so that the only possible journey is between Porte d'Orléans and Porte de Clignancourt. It's hard to imagine that being very popular.

        If this is the sort of thing Mike Bara means when he referes to "Wormhole technology" he's dreaming. Well, we knew that, I guess.

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[1] Just kidding. "Former CAD-CAM technician" is the truth.

Thursday, February 20, 2020

This just in from Kerry Cassidy... Lies

        Today, Kerry Cassidy reports that she has interviewed the convicted murderer Mark Richards yet again, and he has news about COVID-19, formerly known by the generic name coronavirus.

Here it is, in the most dishonest nutshell you ever came across:
« 100,000 people in China [are] involved in the virus. 30% have died, 30% are infected and 40% are taken off-world by Reptilians assisting China in their drive to eliminate approx. 500 million people ...

Those humans taken off-world, according to Mark, by Reptilians, are sold to other races for food and used as sex slaves. This virus will mutate and other governments are using it to facilitate eliminating some of their populations as well. One-quarter of a million people will die of the virus this year.»
The true figures as of today, per the Johns Hopkins online tracker, are:

Confirmed cases: 75,788, of which 74,588  (98.4%) in Mainland China
Deaths: 2,132 (2.8%)
Recovered 16, 910

=====Update: 10 days later (1st March) =============
Confirmed cases: 88,108, of which 79,826  (98.4%) in Mainland China
Deaths: 2,995 (3.6%)
Recovered 42,716
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=====Update: another 12 days later (13th March) ======
Confirmed cases: 137,066, of which 80,945  (59%) in Mainland China
Deaths: 5069 (3.6%)
Recovered 69,643
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        The People's Daily released video ten days ago, showing a fleet of trucks disinfecting the streets of Wuhan with a mix of propyl alcohol and bleach.


        So there's no doubt about the seriousness of this outbreak. But Kerry Cassidy is once again guilty of promoting UTTER BULLSHIT. I promise I'll be back at the end of the year when Mark Richards' prediction can be assessed with certainty. Given that Richards is now serving a life sentence in Vacaville jail, with no special access to sources, I'm very confident that I will be telling him, if he's listening, that he was wrong.

Update:
        In fact, we did not have to wait very long for a quarter of a million deaths. That benchmark was reached on 5th May. By then 3,662,691 cases had been confirmed—the true figure almost certainly much higher.

Monday, January 6, 2020

Is Richard Hoagland chanelling someone else?

        Just yesterday I was transcribing Richard Hoagland saying this:
"I have sources.I know there's technology to manipulate hurricanes. I know there's technology to provide unlimited energy with no pollution. I know there's technology to provide anti-gravity lift so we can take giga-tons into space."
        It reminded me of somebody else, and when I'd finished the (long) transcript, it came to me.
"They don't want you to know we have anti-gravity.
They don't want you to know we have unlimited power.
They don't want you to know that we have bases on the Moon and possibly bases on Mars.
They don't want you to know they're using HAARP to control the weather.
They don't want you to know what's in Area 51.
They don't want you to know  that there's a small cartel of about 750 people that own everything."
        Who is that a quote from? It's none other than Sean David Morton, speaking on the notorious 2016 Conspira-Sea cruise. You can still see him on YouTube, right at the beginning of Annie Georgia Greenberg's excellent parody video.


         Morton and his wife were arrested as soon as the ship docked in San Pedro and, as I'm sure most readers of this blog are aware, Morton is now rotting away in the SHU of a Texas jail.

Adolescent rage
        In my opinion, these delusions are a symptom of something that's an analogy of the rage and rebellion adolescents experience when they come to realize that the parents have all the power in the family, and own all the toys. I've written about that before, in connection with David Wilcock. In the case of adolescents, their perceptions are generally the truth, but in the case of Hoagland, Morton, Wilcock and all the other conspiradroids, the all-powerful cartels who own all the toys are simply imaginary.

Sunday, January 5, 2020

Hoagland vs. Hogue: Word-fight at the Blogtalk Corral

        The Rational-wikipedia page on John Hogue characterizes him as "a woo-meister and bullshit artist." It notes that "In a stopped clock moment of remarkable quality, Hogue had the foresight to title the biography he hosts on his website as An Idiot’s Autobiography.

        Hogue himself says he's a world authority on Nostradamus, and his talents at astrology and other ephemera make him a remarkably accurate predictor of world affairs. He used to claim that he correctly predicted the outcome of the last so-many presidential elections. Since he had Clinton for 2018, he's cunningly amended that to "the last so-many presidential elections by popular vote." Har-har.

        Well, of course, we know how it goes. All these clairvoyant people who appear on the media inevitably predict ghastly things in our futures. I guess they think nobody would pay any attention if they said "I've looked at the prophecies and everything's going to be hunky-dory."

        Richard Hoagland had Hogue as a guest on his blogtalkradio show The Other Side of Midnight, 29th December. The on-demand public audio has just been posted, so I was able to review it (the link will probably expire in about a week). For an hour and a half, the two Hoags discussed the decade to come. We were, indeed, warned about "a decade of destruction" to include catastrophic climate change, overpopulation, famine...bla bla bla. But then things took a different turn, as Hogue (rather reluctantly, I thought,) revealed that he was not an adoring fan of RCH and his whacko ideas. It went like this:

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[after RCH declares emphatically that Hurricane Dorian was deliberately manipulated to stall over the Bahamas]

1:37:52 RCH: That was not accidental. That was a designed catastrophe. It can't...
JH: That's your belief.
RCH: No, it's technology..
JH: That's your belief.
RCH : It has nothing to do with belief, it's science, John. I have sources.I know there's technology to manipulate hurricanes. I know there's technology to provide unlimited energy with no pollution. I know there's technology to provide anti-gravity lift so we can take giga-tons into space to make...

JH: You've got it all figured out, Richard.

RCH: No, the part I don't have..
(together)
RCH: The part...
JH: ...listening to a guy like me..
RCH: The part I don't have...
The part...
JH: You've got it all figured out.
:::
RCH: The part I don't have figured out in my research is the transition politically, with hope, to a future that we want, and not the terror that you are forecasting.

JH: Well, I'll tell you. I... First off, I definitely would love to see what you're saying. And all the climate change that's coming...

RCH: No, it's here.

JH: No, it hasn't even started yet. You wait, the next five years....

RCH: Have you watched what's going on in Australia lately?

JH: Yes.

RCH: Do you know why it's been Australia?

JH: Well, you tell me what you think it is...

RCH: No, it's based on science, and research The hemispheres... this has nothing to do with the sun  This has to do with the physics of planetary and stellar energy sources. The problem we're facing tonight, John, is not so much greenhouse because of burning fossil fuels—it's because the physics is cyclic, and it's not cyclic together in both hemispheres. The southern hemisphere is going to be hit worse than the northern hemisphere. That's why we're seeing this incredible problem in Australia, in their northern [sic] summer. The only way out of a scientific problem is with a scientific solution. The problem is those solutions have been suppressed in decade after decade after decade, because the élites either didn't believe this was going to happen, or they really want 90% of the world to die.

JH: Richard, this is what I call, um, basically, conspiracy-itis. It is something I've dealt with.... and it's where—you know, I just have to say it for the record. I consider, as brilliant as you are, that you sometimes take a possibility and make yourself believe you have the evidence. And then, when the evidence is questioned, you perhaps do what conspiracy people do, they end up saying "Oh it's been suppressed." And, I mean, I have to go all the way back to the face on Mars. I have to go all the way back...

RCH: (laughs) What does the face on Mars have to do with 90% of the world dying because of climate change?

JH: It has something to do.. Look, I'm sorry I don't want to have to go to...I told you I didn't want to go to..

RCH: You have a choice, John.

JH: I have to.

RCH: You have a choice.

JH: I have.. and I chose to go there. You can throw me off, or you can let me tell it. Hey, it's your show, you wanna do that, that's fine. Wanna kick me off—that's fine. But the reason why I'm going there... it's the only way I can respond to what you've just said. Is that I have a serious problem with your research—patterns of research. I think a lot of it, in my experience, is belief-based, and, you know, all this stuff about all these phantasmagorical things being ...     I think it's a bit over-active, er, over-reactive. It's intuitive, and I have to go back to the face on Mars. I remember in the 70s, hearing you on radio, hearing you talk about all that,  and I ... and I thought "Well, I hope that's true." But when I looked at the pictures,  I wondered...   God the pictures aren't that clear. What if we...maybe  some day we need to get clearer pictures, when our technology is better, when we land on Mars. But, you know, NASA came up with the pictures, and there's no face. But all the years ....
:::
RCH: Let's go back. You looked at the latest imagery from NASA of Cydonia. And your conclusion, based on looking at the pictures—you don't see a face. Right?

JH: There is no face.

RCH: No no no no no, let's talk. To you there isn't a face.

JH: And to you, there is.

RCH: And a whole bunch of colleagues all round the world, who have invested thousands of man-hours and woman-hours in researching not only Cydonia, but all the rest of Mars, and all the other artifacts we've found, and the book we're working on, and the videos we've produced, and the briefings...

JH: [over] ...religion....

RCH: There's no religion, John.

JH: Yeah, I can look at all the people from the Catholic faith, and the Moslem faith, and all the theologians who say "God exists" and all that, but the truth is unless we go on Mars ... unless we actually set foot on Mars and see these things, there's some doubt.

RCH: There's always doubt. Science is nothing if it's not, you know, prediction. The way you know it's...

JH: You've got all this army of people that agree with you.

RCH: People doing independent research coming to the same conclusion.

JH: There's a lot of people who've come to the same conclusion in history, and it's been wrong.

RCH: John, you seem to have an emotional...
JH; (together)...technical enquiry...
RCH: You seem ...
JH: I didn't want to go here.

RCH: You don't have to. Because you're attacking the essence of my science. And what I would like you to do...

JH: No, I'm attacking the essence of your belief system, which is why...

RCH: My work has nothing to do...
JH (together)...
RCH: ...has nothing to do with belief. Believe me, after thirty years,

[Keith Morgan interrupts and makes a point supporting RCH, emphatically]

JH: The difference between you and me is that you're angry about this...

KM: I'm not angry.

JH: Yes you are, you're angry. You're shouting at me now. If you want to be factual, be factual about what's happening between you and me right now.

[Keith Morgan makes another point, even more emphatically]
:::

You're disempowering your argument. That's what I've learned, when I get angry like this, is that it bleeds off my energy, it bleeds off my ability to argue my point because of my attachment to the point.  This is... This is not how you're going to convince me of ...of... of what you're doing, because you're getting angry, and that is disempowering.

KM: Because, you, right now, you're saying all of this is a joke.

JH: Did I ever say it was a joke? You said...

KM: I get the impression....

JH: You said... Hey! Say it right! You're getting impressions that's what it is....  No, you accuse, you said "You think this is all a joke". That's you projecting on me, my friend.

RCH: John, just a couple of minutes ago you accused me of having a belief system as opposed to a scientific process.
(together)
JH: It's my feeling...

[...and general squabbling until Kynthea intervenes]
[ends 1:48:41]

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        It was classic Hoagland. He was talking bullshit but doing it so eloquently that he made it sound plausible. If his sources promise hurricane control, free energy and anti-gravity, then his sources are rubbish. And my other point would be; if you can't cite your sources, it ain't science.