Tuesday, June 21, 2016

More of Mike Bara's errors and fantasies

        I must admit to having a "soft spot" for Jimmy Church. I like his voice, he does ask sensible questions, and unlike Richard Hoagland he never interrupts his guests. It's unfortunate that he falls hook, line, and sinker for all the woo that this blog exists to mock, and doubly unfortunate that he and Mike Bara are such good pals that Mike gets on the show all too frequently.

        Last night, as a supreme example, Jimmy gave Mike two whole hours to promote himself as an expert on the "Secret Space Program" -- not by coincidence the subject of his forthcoming book. He said there are actually three American space programs, one public and two secret. Launches, he told us, take place from pads deep in the wild country of Utah where nobody notices. I'm willing, I suppose, to imagine somewhere so remote that a launch would go unnoticed, but how about the heavy traffic to and fro? Does Bara think the people of Utah are such rubes that they wouldn't wonder why oversize loads were regularly traversing their back-roads? Which direction do they launch in? East, over Colorado, or South over Arizona? Range safety must be an absolute nightmare. Also, how do they conceal this spaceport from all those enthusiasts who spend their nights scrutinizing Google Earth looking for oddities?

No gravity in Earth orbit
        It wasn't too long before Mike was laying on us some of his major misunderstandings about spaceflight. "In orbit there's very little gravity," he said. He just cannot seem to get it into his head that gravity is exactly what maintains an orbit. He has this totally incorrect mental picture of gravity pretty much switching off as soon as you leave the Earth's surface. Then we got his equally incorrect account of the early days of the US space effort. Here's the fortune cookie version: Von Braun was puzzled because Explorer 1 went 33% higher than planned (he claimed 60% in his book The Choice.) Then Von Braun realized that it was because the upper stages were rotating, and rotation sucks in hyperdimensional energy from the 6th dimension. So Von Braun adjusted for that by sneaking an extra term into the rocket equation without anybody noticing. Got that? Well, not a word of it is truenote 1. This blog has given a correct version of this slice of space history more than once, but since Jimmy Church doesn't read this blog he didn't know enough to call Bara on it.

        Well over an hour into the interview, Bara went off into fantasy-land. It went like this:

72:17 JC "Now what's the third version of the Secret Space Program"?

MB: "Well, to me, um, it's NASA. Because you've got this program that was started by the intelligence agencies, where they invited people like T. Townsend Brown to come and give them presentations on how to develop anti-gravity aircraft and spacecraft. And they said "Thanks very much" and all of a sudden anti-gravity disappears from the official scientific literature of the day. Then you've got the program that I think Kennedy started, and then I think really you have NASA, which is not really a secret space program but it's secret in the sense that it really is a public space program but it had nefarious aims and there was a lot of -- again, to use the word -- shenanigans going on at NASA, the Apollo Program ... I think that really the third program was the NASA stuff, which was actually basically a salvage program. It was designed to go and salvage Anunnaki technology from the Moon and bring it back here for reverse engineering.

76:05 JC "What was the technology that they were after? Are you saying... when you say Anunnaki, are you... do you have specific evidence or something that points towards an ancient.. you know, Moonbase that was there and we went and exploited it?

MB: "Well, yeah. We've talked about different things on this show before -- about the ziggurat on the back side of the Moon, things like that. But I think that...um, even, you know, deeper that that, I think to me the biggest most obvious artifact in all this is what Hoagy called Data's Head on the Moon, which is this human-looking head which is clearly not a skull though, it's some sort of robot, a machine, that is in Shorty  crater on Apollo 17. There's a lot of other stuff in these images of Shorty crater that appears to be mechanical debris, and it's like the arm from Terminator, you know, if you bring back the arm from the Terminator and start working on it and reverse engineering it, then you're eventually going to get some ideas and figure some things out, and you're going to develop, you know, super-secret technologies from that.

        Again, this is familiar territory to regular readers of this blog.  For newbies, here's a link to the main picture of Shorty crater. Can you find the robot head? Do you think they could have descended into the crater and picked it up, even though no such descent was in the plan? Even though they were being reminded that they were behind schedule? Do you see a lot of other "mechanical debris"?

        I have a new question about this fantasy, too. Much earlier in the interview, Bara stated quite flatly that President Kennedy knew there was advanced alien technology on the Moon, and that was the true motive of Apollo. In which case, why did it take six separate missions to go and fetch it?

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[1] Longish notes for anyone who really wants to get into this subject.

Von Braun was puzzled: Explorer 1 went into a 223 x 1592 mi orbit, cf. the planned 220 x 1000 mi. So it is literally true to say that its maximum altitude was ~160% of nominal, as measured from the surface of the Earth. However, that is not how the energy of an orbit is measured. The correct measure is the semi-major axis, which takes into account not only the apogee but the perigee and the diameter of planet Earth. By this measure, the excess is just 6.5%. The actual velocity at orbit insertion was off by 2.46%.

So Von Braun would not have been puzzled at all -- to the contrary, the orbit was never expected to be precise because of the imprecision of the solid rocket fuels of the 1950s, and the fact that the Juno rocket had no guidance after first-stage burnout. The second stage was, in fact, a ring of 13 Baby Sergeant solid rockets -- and the whole point of the rotation was to even out unpredictable variations of their thrust. Mike Bara seems aware of that but he can't seem to stretch his mind to the idea that the non-nominal performance can easily be accounted for by known factors.

Rotation sucks in hyperdimensional energy from the 6th dimension: This codswallop is so unscientific it makes me want to scream. First of all, there's absolutely no credible evidence that rotating something draws energy into it. Bara cites two experiments -- the "Allais Effect" and Bruce DePalma's spinning balls -- but neither has been confirmed, the claimed effect is minuscule, and DePalma's result has a better explanation. And then, even supposing that could be shown to be true, adding energy to a rotating rocket could have many possible results. It might heat the thing up, or make it luminesce. Yes, it might accelerate it but equally likely DEcelerate it, or cause it to veer off course. In the special case of a rotating planet, Bara and Hoagland have repeatedly claimed that the result is an upwelling (typically of volcanic heat) at the 19.5° latitude. They want it both ways -- upwelling when it suits their daft ideas, acceleration when that seems to fit the requirements. It's hopelessly, irretrievably, wrong.

Von Braun adjusted for that by sneaking an extra term into the rocket equation without anybody noticing: Again, I scream. It's been 58 years since Explorer 1's triumphant orbit. Mike Bara is seriously expecting us to believe that two whole generations of rocketry engineers have been educated and come of age without noticing what was in their equations??? Bara once addressed this point, saying that nobody knows these days what the actual equations are, they're just algorithms in a computer. Engineers simply feed in their data and crank the handle.

If you believe that, you'd believe anything.

14 comments:

Trekker said...

Lol! Is he still banging on about that ziggurat? He just can't admit he was wrong, can he?

Chris Lopes said...

Trekker,
To admit he's wrong, he'd have to know he's wrong and understand why he's wrong. As a certified woo master (who studied under the best of the best), he's incapable of that kind of comprehension. We are talking about a guy who is just marginally capable of abstract thought.

I love the whole "no gravity in Earth orbit" thing. Maybe Hoagland should let him borrow his copy of the Disney in Space videos so he can know what every 9 year old in 1950's America knew about spaceflight.

Anonymous said...

@ expat

Based on your analysis....Hilarious!!!
It seems that Bara Baby is still at it....in the wrong way :-) I say baby because he acts like a toddler with regular tantrums when anyone points out the stupidities and/or irregularities in his arguments. Once coined the phrase Mike Cartman Bara in reference tot his tantrums...just like Eric Cartman. From "respect my authoritah" he goes to "respect my gravity" something that he really doesn't seem to understand as a "world renowned airplane engineer/designer"
Beyond that he now uses Utah as a platform, one state up to the left of the Roswell/area 51 state :-)
If Utah is the "secret launch state" surely Mikey boy will dazzle and bewilder us with crisp and pristine pictures from launch platforms etc. extracted from Google Earth [the easiest way to proof his bamboozle]

I predict these pictures will never see the light of day :-)

His "thesis" is nonetheless an interesting one...to bad he bungles it up from the get go.

Adrian

astroguy said...

I'm still waiting for my debate with Mikey. Somethin' tells me that Mike is almost smart enough to realize he shouldn't do it.

Anonymous said...

Ohhh, so that's what the mysterious term in the rocket equation is about!

An Aerospace Engineer (for real)

P.S. Sorry, I couldn't resist. This is like when those guys claim the V-2 is based on alien technology, but then can't explain how such aliens could use such technology to travel 50 to 100 light-years like we fly across the Atlantic. Perhaps what we thought were V-2 guidance, navigation, and control gyroscopes are, in fact, cleverly disguised zero-point-energy warp-field hyperspace generator coils?

Anonymous said...

"... to imagine somewhere so remote that a launch would go unnoticed, but how about the heavy traffic to and fro? Does Bara think the people of Utah are such rubes that they wouldn't wonder why oversize loads were regularly traversing their back-roads?"

Obviously, you are ignorant of the sekreet underground bullet trains!

INSOMNiUS

expat said...

Underground bullet trains... Ooooo how cunning!

Chris said...

Did he really call him "Hoagy"? If so, he again seems to be placing distance between himself and Hoagland, as he did when he claimed credit for Dark Mission then reluctantly added in that he was a co-author. I get the sense that Bara is mentally moving Hoagland out of the picture so he can have people focus on himself. With friends like that who needs illuminati enemies!

expat said...

Yes, "Hoagy" it was. From several things Mike has said over the last year, it's pretty obvious that those two villains aren't on each other's Christmas card list any more.

Chris Lopes said...

Well he's taken everything worth taking from Hoagland and turned it into more books than Hoagie ever managed, so he can afford to kick the old guy to the curb. Hoagland deserves every bit of the treatment he's getting from his old friend and coauthor, especially considering how willing he's been to steal other people's stuff. The old fraud was done in by his apprentice.

Strahlungs Amt said...

Those underground bullet trains are real. Some guy's seekrit sources told him so. They even provided him the subway map. Remember, these maps are from the 1940s so there's probably a direct link to the London Underground by now.
http://ufodigest.com/article/wikieup-arizona-home-secret-underground-military-facility

And here it is again: in Windows 3.1 dithered colour.
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news16_dumbs.html

Stay Tuned....

expat said...

UFO Digest, eh? Yeah, Robert Morningstar would fall for that one like a lead weight.

Ex Parte said...

Talk about the gravity. Now that merry old is checking out of the EU, will it be safe for you to finally go home, or could you still be extradited for propagandizing in favor of NASA over the ESA?

Dee said...

anonymous engineer "but then can't explain how such aliens could use such technology to travel 50 to 100 light-years like we fly across the Atlantic."

You don't seem well versed in the Hoagland mythos (which is not a bad thing per se).

Aliens don't have to fly light years since most of the publications relate just to "extraterrestrial technology" inside this very solar system relating to ancient humans or some pre-human civilization. It's portrayed as the result of recovering ancient artifacts, a bit like in the movie Raiders of the Lost Ark. Hence the later race to the Moon to recover some more over there. All linking von Braun, JPL, Parsons, Crowley and so on. The whole ritualistic angle combined with artifacts, secret programs and cabals. Such a wild, seductive cocktail of history, romance, science, blood, sex, murder and magic! I for one I'm very disappointed with the sequels (Bara-ism, all the Hoaglandish rehashes) of what started as a very good story resonating with so many at the turn of the century!


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