Wednesday, September 11, 2013

Richard Hoagland's homework in the dog bowl again

        This week I thought it was time to tweak Hoagland again about his evasive replies or non-replies to scientific questions about his Accutron "experiments."note 1 Derek "binaryspellbook" Eunson has made an offer of professional peer review of Hoagland's data set, and been met with... nothing. I sent this:

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From: expat
To: RCH
Date: 9/9/13
Subj: Your published Accutron data

Greetings...

I've been reviewing your Accutron data and this is a summary:

Venus Transit 2004, Coral Castle. Trace 1. Max. 364.474 Hz, but some off-scale when the event was over. Min. 360 Hz.

Venus Transit 2004, Coral Castle. Trace 2. Max. 364.474 Hz. Min. 360 Hz.

Venus Transit 2004, Coral Castle. Trace 3. Max. 366.782 Hz. (after the transit) Min. 360 Hz.

Dawn 4-22-09, Teotihuacan. Max. 465.192 Hz. Min. 360 Hz.

4-26-09, Tikal. Max. 949.586 Hz. Min. 14.531 Hz.

Solar eclipse 5-20-12, High Finance restaurant. Max. off-scale. Min. off-scale.

The following questions occur:

- For the Venus transit data, why would greater frequency excursions occur after the transit than during it? Does this not violate Bruce DePalma's theory?

- Why are the published traces incompatible?

- Why would the greatest frequency excursions of all happen at Tikal, when no eclipse or transit was in progress?

- Why do you show negative excursions for Tikal and Sandia, but none at Coral Castle and Teotihuacan?

- Do you consider the Sandia trace to have any scientific value in spite of the fact that all frequency excursions are off-scale?

- When do you plan to publish data from Stonehenge, Avebury, Silbury Hill, the 2012 Venus transit, and Mauna Kea?

- What was the orientation of the tuning fork in relation to the spin axis, in all cases?

Thanks and regards,
[expat]

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From:RCH
To: expat
Date: 9/9/13
Subj: Your published Accutron data

This is why it is best to WAIT for the formally published paper on all this.

All these "mysteries" ultimately do have a scientific (and really neat!) explanation ....

As I told your friend Derek, it would be very useful for you to read the history of "Gravity Probe B."

Stay tuned.


RCH


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        As far as I'm concerned, that's just an updated version of "The dog ate my homework."  The chance of getting this sorry excuse for science data published in a proper journal is absolute zero. So the evasion continues...

Update June 2016
Two and a half years later, we're still waiting....

[1] New readers who have NFI what this is about can get a backgrounder here.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hoagland won't respond, he has no interest in doing so. As long as he can get a free lunch/ holiday/ cruise and join in mutual appreciation with a friendly radio host he's as happy as a pig in shit. Producing 'facts' is way down his priorities, so any prevarication when he's presented with anomolies is no great surprise. The day he and Bara hold their hands up and say "sussed, we admit we tried to scam you" will be the day I win the lottery.

SB

Esteban Navarro said...

I've been waiting for the answer to "my interesting questions" almost two years. At least you have answers, Expat. Elusive nonsenses but responses after all. Congrats.
;)

Esteban Navarro said...

I've been waiting for the answer to "my interesting questions" almost two years. At least you have answers, Expat. Elusive nosenses but responses after all. Congrats.;

Anonymous said...

Expat, it might be interesting to find out what RCH means with the history of Probe 2. I wonder if he was thinking of:

From A Viewpoint on: "Gravity Probe B: Final Results of a Space Experiment to Test General Relativity" by Clifford M. Will

"the team discovered that when the spacecraft was deliberately pointed away from the guide star by a large angle, the misalignment induced much larger torques on the rotors than expected. From this, they inferred that even the very small misalignments that occurred during the science phase of the mission induced torques that were probably several hundred timeslarger than the designers had estimated. What ensued during the data analysis phase was worthy of a detective novel.. "

Can you feel the torsion, ehmm, tension?

"...interactions between random patches of electrostatic potential fixed to the surface of each rotor, and similar patches on the inner surface of its spherical housing, were causing the extraneous torque. In principle, the rolling spacecraft should have suppressed these effects, but they were larger than expected. The patch interactions also accounted for the “jumps”: they occurred whenever a gyro’s slowly decreasing polhode period crossed an integer multiple of the spacecraft roll period. What looked like a jump of the spin direction was actually a spiraling path - known to navigators as a loxodrome. The team was able to account for all these effects in a parameterized model".


Now, perhaps RCH is thinking about something else here but since the results are final by now and the data out there (AFAIK) he might as well be more specific. Which precessions? What kind of resonance jumps? Or did he mean something else entirely when talking about "history" of the craft? All options are open this way..

D.

expat said...

That's very good -- well spotted. I bet that's what he's referring to. Whether he actually understands it is another matter.

Binaryspellbook said...

This was my small exchange with the Hyperdimensional-Meister himself.

Hi Richard,

Please find attached a graph I put together in my lab this morning showing what an acceptable graph should look like.

No off scale rubbish, data clearly labelled and unmanipulated.

May we see a torsion field graph similarly displayed.

Kindest Regards
DJE

When we formally publish ....

(As background, you might want to read the extraordinary history of "Gravity-Probe B" ....)

RCH


Incidentally, 1.5 years ago we were told that Hoagland was working "night and day" to get his data out. Still nada. Perhaps he's being uber careful when he makes up his data this time.

MarsRevealer said...

You guyz really wanna call Hoagland out on something IMPORTANT? SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE HIM CAUGHT IN A MOSH WITH REGARDS OVER TO USE AGAINST HIM?? We have that something!

Ask him openly, publicly, without fail, until he answers about an old video released in 1993 that NEVER AIRED IN AMERICA, called UFO DIARIES!

Hoagland was in that video. The special thing in that video is secret & never seen before imagery by the public, showing us that there are more than one face of Mars! That is correct! More than One Face of Mars! These images have been used to be seen as background & even in your face image data, that was seen in that video.

I brought this foprth to Hoagland's attention back in 2006. he encouraged me to investigate for him. LOL. Noww I know why! because he is NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THEM IMAGES! The producers both claimed Hoagland provided them to be used & seen, but NOT WANTED TO BE PHOTOGRAPHED IN CONNECTION TO THEM!Once I investigated some as he asked me to do, all a sudden, after this news was found out, Hoagland ran to the hills, while setting me & my family up. Made us homeless, destroyed my radio show, tried to have me committed,(almost worked also)! He also went erasing anything & all he could from Enterprise in a sad attempt to cover the facts that I ever brought this forth to his attention or to Enterprise Mission. Especially erasing history regards to me at Enterprise Mission! Pretending to himself & to all, I never existed, nor this issue I brought forth & he encouraged me to investigate. I have ALL THE PROOFS NECESSARY TO SHOW THIS!

The funny part is that when this was filmed, started in 1990, completed in 1993, Hoagland was at the UN doing his speeches of the Face at Cydonia., WHY HE NEVER MENTIONED OR SHOWN THESE OTHER FACES IS A GREAT MYSTERY! HE HAD THEM THEN,... BUT NEVER SAID A WORD! WHY??? WHY THE LIES? WHY THE DECEPTION? WHY THE SET UP? WHY THE ACTING AS AN OPERATIVE AGAINST SOMEONE CLOSE TO HIM APART OF ENTERPRISE MISSION?? WHY IS HE AFRAID TO EVEN SPEAK OF UFO DIARIES, OR OF CHUCK SELLIER WHO PRODUCED IT THAT CLAIMED HOAGLAND PROVIDED THE IMAGES? WHY IS HE AFRAID TO SPEAK ABOUT A 22 MINUTE DOCUMENTARY VIDEO HE HIMSELF WAS IN?? Aint he always saying Go to Enterprise, see this video I am in?? Buy these videos etc?? THEN WHY NOT MENTION ANYTHING OF UFO DIARIES?? OR EVER EVEN MENTION ABOUT THOSE OTHER FACES IMAGES... HE PROVIDED??

I NEED ALL YOUR HELP. REGARDLESS WHAT YOU WISH TO SEE, OR NOT-SEE, WHAT YOU BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE. THE FACT IS, WE GOT HIM BY THE BALLS & HE NEEDS TO BE PURSUED TO ANSWER FOR THIS VIDEO, THESE SECRET IMAGES, & FOR THE THINGS DONE TO ME & MINE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPRESS THIS ALL. ANY OF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO DO SO?? CALL HIM OUT ON SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE & TO KNOW ABOUT!! THEY ARE FROM HIS SECRET PAST!!!

You can see more of this at http://www.thefacesofmars.com

I AM GARY LEGGIERE... THE MAD MARTIAN!!

expat said...

Hi Gary. I'm familiar with your case. There's no doubt in my mind that you were royally abused by Hoagland & Falkov. However, your claim that "we've got him by the balls" is not credible. He has already answered that the pictures you periodically rant about were just set dressing. He's not going to respond any further.

I'm fairly sympathetic to you, but please don't come here and post in all-caps. It's hard to read and makes you look like a loony.

Cheers.

jes said...

I'm encouraged by your latest communication with RCH in regards to the measurements and specific locations.

I should mention I've never really been skeptical of him though, as independent scientists and researchers always are attacked from various angles. Without wild yet brilliant thinkers pushing the limits while soliciting funds we wouldn't have many great engineering feats in the world, for example.

That is the way I see it

expat said...

Thanks for the comment, jes. Your opinion is perfectly welcome here, although I'm baffled as to how anyone could find Hoagland's unresponsiveness "encouraging"!

Anonymous said...

Gary, I remember you from when you had that radio show and way before that. You were always one who loved the jumping to conclusions more even than the conclusions themselves! One furry ball of enthusiasm!

My advice would be to let it go man. RCH said it were props. Many props appear to have been used for that show. The photo's probably were compiled and glued together by some interns, to look as interesting as possible (it's TV after all, it quickly looks dull for larger audiences). This would be the most likely explanation, no need to delve further.

However, your instinct is right: there is something deceiving to RCH's presentations. But it's not the props, it's how he plays a game with his own mind and that of his audience and yours. Never too late to step back from it, Gary! Retire the subject.

Dee.

Bill Belcher said...

I remember Mars revealer back in the late 1990's
All credit to you!..that brings back memories, along with carlottos face on mars sgi, and the wierd plantery mysteries with Cyanthia...hoagland is a laughable self believing twonk. I once remember the time when Hoagland spouted about this radio signal/ object coming from the outer parts of the solar system which was slowing down...it was picked up by a university or something but in the end it was a hoax from a guy in the uk. Hoagland took it hook line and sinker!...hadn't he watched Independence Day!
Hoaglands angstrom medal is never mentioned any more too..and not on his website?...unless you do a way back machine web search.....anyway keep up the good work expat!

expat said...

It was a signal from EQ Pegasi. Some of it's still up on his awful web site.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/truth1.htm

That page is a beaut. It has not only EQ Pegasi but HAARP, reverse speech, Hoagland's misinterpretation of radar images, and the wonderful fake document committing Hoagland to a mental institution.

NO I DID NOT DO IT.

Jacqueline Ballet said...

Dear ExPat,

Please lets give Gary a bit more leeway here, in light of all he's been though, and in the spirit of roasting Hoagland. More importlantly, I've always wondered what the real deal was about, between those two, and think that there's a news worthy story to be learned.


Dear Gary,

Please elaborate if you will. How did that Dick Hoagland set you and your family up? Did he directly make you homeless and destroy your radio show, or were those tragic misfortunes, secondary results from having been set up?

What specifically did Hoagland erase from his website? Do you have the old links? If so, we might be able to retrieve them from archive.org.

Finally, the stuff that Dick Hoagland had you investigate, are you saying that it was legitimate, or that he was sending you on a wild goose chase?

I never heard your radio show, but I have always admired your lampoons, over at Hoagland's facebutt page.

Cheers,




Jacqueline Ballet said...


As of December 29, 2006

http://web.archive.org/web/20061229180406/http://www.enterprisemission.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20070701002109im_/http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/MartianRevelation.jpg

August 9th
Pre-Mars Opposition Interview
with Richard C. Hoagland
and Dr. John Brandenburg

http://web.archive.org/web/20061127091113/http://www.marsrevealer.com/

Jacqueline Ballet said...

Why does Hoagland still have Gary's logo image with dead links posted on his website?

Last words at bottom of page:
http://enterprisemission.com


Ship's Music 2001


http://enterprisemission.com/images/MartianRevelation.jpg



August 9th
Pre-Mars Opposition Interview
with Richard C. Hoagland
and Dr. John Brandenburg


http://www.marsrevealer.com

Richard C. Hoagland

Richard Hoagland

Richard C. Hoagland, founder of The Enterprise Mission, recipient of the Angstrom Medal


http://enterprisemission.com/images/rich-ang.jpg


, former science advisor to CBS News and Walter Cronkite, author of "The Monuments of Mars", co-creator of the "Pioneer Plaque", originator of the "Europa Proposal", and principal investigator of The Enterprise Mission... welcomes you to his official World Wide Web Site.

Steady as she goes ...

Why
"Enterprise?"

The Enterprise Mission

Mission Statement

expat said...

I think you should be asking why the entire web site hasn't been arrested by the Internet standards enforcement cops. It's an utter disgrace.

Chris Lopes said...

He chose the name Enterprise to attract the Trekkie crowd. Hoagland has a very long history of stealing other people's works and using them for his own purposes.

As to his response to expat, yeah it's another piece of vaporware. "The Paper That Explains Everything"(tm) will be published right after he finishes all the other papers he claims to be working on. In other words, it'll be sometime before the heat death of the universe, but not much before.

mheiser said...

Dear Expat - I enjoy your blog, Have you ever taken the time (more aggravation for you) to check out this related site:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/09/congressionial-disclosure-studies-alien-moon-bases/

Would love to see you post on that one.

expat said...

Glad you enjoy the blog, and thanks for taking the trouble to write it.

No, I hadn't seen that page before, but I face-palmed as soon as I read this:

"photos revealing artifacts and structures are routinely modified by NASA higher-ups."

DarkGovernment.com doesn't know what it's writing about. As I've often mentioned on this blog, all data processing for Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is done at the School of Earth and Space Exploration at Arizona State Univ. "NASA high-ups" don't even get to see it until the processing is done.

Use google advanced search to pull out everything I've written about Ken Johnston, and you'll read my opinion of him. Someone who claims expertise in NASA photography, and says the blue flare in AS14-66-9301 is a spaceship, IS NOT a reliable source.

mheiser said...

Thanks for the reply, Expat. I'll be blogging about this brief exchange. Hopefully you'll get a few more readers!

Chris Lopes said...

mheiser, could you post a link to your blog?

mheiser said...

To Chris: Here is the link to my post about Expat's comments to my question:

http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/2013/09/nasa-full-moon-conspiracies/

expat said...

Thanks for the plug...

Misti Phowyu said...

http://artbell.com/richard-c-hoagland/

9/19/2013 Program:

Richard C. Hoagland will be talking with Art about the new “LADEE” unmanned mission to the Moon, and how it can (finally!) PROVE the existence of the “ancient lunar glass domes” he has been investigating on NASA imagery for the past several decades… If NASA honestly publishes ALL the LADDEE data. Hoagland will also discuss the startling, recent confirmations of “an ancient, high-tech civilization on Mars” — confirmed in new close-up surface images from NASA’s on-going Curiosity rover mission to Gale Crater.

Click to View All Images

artbell.com/919-hoagland-images



Hoagland will then outline how his decade of “on-site, ‘torsion field’ Accutron measurements” at ancient archaeological sites around the world, not only confirm the pre-historical existence of an ”ancient, high-tech civilization” on Earth … but, its deep connection to the larger, “Type II Civilization” he has been proposing once inhabited the ancient solar system … of which humans are “the descendants.”

expat said...

I'm not willing to subscribe to SiriusXM so I won't be covering this unless I can find a source of quotes.