Monday, February 21, 2011

Review of Hoagland on Coast to Coast AM, 17/18 February

        The official topic of C2C 2/17/11 was "Energy Grids," and the official guest was Englishman Hugh Newman, who had a book of that name to plug (full title "Earth Grids -- the Secret Patterns of Gaia's Sacred Sites".)

        It seems that Richard Hoagland was sending a blizzard of instant messaging to George Noory during Newman's first hour, claiming this topic as his territory. Stupidly, Noory impulsively allowed him on the air during the second hour (third of the entire show,) at which he very predictably drowned poor Hugh Newman in verbal diarrhea. It was the more shameful because Newman was giving us a relatively level-headed (albeit New Agey) account of the topic, and RCH took the topic and trashed it with pseudo-science. Here are two excerpts:

"These [megalithic] structures, to my thinking, the way I'm looking now at this physics, which has a tremendously venerable history, certainly in Russia, is the primary energy transfer in the universe. And the [electro-magnetic] stuff that we all think ... is primary is in fact secondary. So these things are transducers, these things are amplifiers—or if you want to use a really interesting term out of radio, they're transponders. What they do is they take in torsion energy—they amplify it—they re-radiate it, which has immediate and global effects ... and then they generate [electro-magnetism] as a kind of noisy side-effect. So when you see these shows, like Ghostbusters, the folks who look at megalithic monuments, or haunted hotels—they're detecting the after-effect of torsion as a secondary e/m thingy. And because Western physics has deliberately, by political intrigue à la the Intell Agencies, been kept in the dark regarding torsion, if you ask the average Russian physicist he's familiar with torsion. The average American guy will say "What? Is that the new bar down the street?"

So there's a real time-lag between the parts of the community—speaking now of science in general—as to how to properly analyze and interpret what you're measuring when you get in the field and measure.


My model is that what we're seeing in Egypt is being sparked, in part, by the amplifying effects of the Great Pyramid sitting right there just outside town, resonating with the changing background torsion field. And the model predicts there should be other interesting weirdnesses at nodal points—tetrahedral points."

        His "the model predicts..." at the end was a thoroughly dishonest piece of back-think, designed to give him a spurious "toldya!" when chaos erupted in the state senate in Madison, Wisconsin—120° of longitude (well, sort-of) from the Great Pyramid. Make no mistake, folks—his "model" predicts no such thing, and if you're a scientist you aren't allowed to predict something that's already happening.

        Here are the longitudes of the "weirdnesses" that have happened since 17th:

Tripoli, civil unrest - 13° 11' E
Benghazi, civil unrest - 20° 04' E
Yemen, civil unrest - 44° 12' E
Mali, stadium stampede - 8° 00' W
Philippines, Bulusan volcano - 124° 03' E
Christchurch NZ, 6.3 earthquake - 172° 37' E

        Not a single one at a so-called "tetrahedral point." Meanwhile, at the other tetrahedral longitude matching Giza and Madison, 151° E, not a lot was happening, weird or otherwise. It's almost all ocean, Richard. So if the "model" really did predict what he claimed, the model is hereby falsified.

        I had to laugh when Hoagland twice referred to the Russian work as well-founded and validated. Here's what the wikipedia article has to say, in part:

"The torsion field concept was conceived in the Soviet Union by a group of physicists in the 1980s. The group, led by Anatoly Akimov and Gennady Shipov, began the research as the state-sponsored Center for Nontraditional Technologies, but was disbanded in 1991 when their research was exposed as a fraud and an embezzlement of State funding..."

        His opinions are pure hot air, and it's a thousand pities that the producers of Coast to Coast are too ignorant to get the point.


        Launch of the shuttle Discovery is set for next Thursday. Keep an eye on the way it launches, and remember that Hoagland has stated that this will be the first 'post-Newtonian' mission. According to him, it will derive its energy from a hyperdimensional torsion field.



Chris Lopes said...

Expat, perhaps Hoagland has forgotten it, but he actually said that Von Braun used this "new physics" on Apollo. Sure it was some time ago (on a C2C show with Joseph Farrell), but he did say it. You know, he should really try to keep better track of his own BS.

expat said...

Updated 22 feb

Chris Lopes said...

Expat, as I've said before, it's not ignorance that drives C2C to invite him on, it's apathy. As long as Noory thinks Hoagland can hold an audience long enough for the sponsors to sell stuff, he'll be invited. Notice though, that he had to invite himself to that particular party. He's usually only invited for 5 minute updates these days. And considering how badly the last one of those went (not even the faithful are completely buying the comet=spaceship thing), it will probably be awhile for one of those too.

Chris Lopes said...

BTW, that bit about the Pyramids helping generate the rebellion in Egypt is an interesting one. It's the second time he has mentioned it (the first was in another 5 minute news update last week), so it must be part of his mythology now. What's really interesting about it is that after the first time he said that, James Concannon and I had a bit of a go around with Robin Falkov about it on Hoagland's public FB page.

At first, she denied he ever said anything of the sort. Her tone at that point indicated she thought the whole idea was down right silly. Then James sent her a transcript of the segment, and suddenly she was back pedaling. She didn't admit she was wrong, just that we weren't understanding what Richard was really saying. She went on to deny that Richard's model is Egyptian (even though it involves some monuments on a plateau within quick driving distance of Cairo), and again acted as if we were speaking an alien language. I don't know if the woman just doesn't really listen to what Richard is saying (my wife sometimes zones me out too), or she is just as dishonest as Richard.

expat said...

Robin looks pretty hot, but then a lot of those dotty New Age wimmin do. She's probably just crazy.

Chris Lopes said...

As a married spud, I won't comment on her hotness, but I do think getting a doctorate in oriental medicine (which sounds a lot like a PhD in superstition) does qualify someone as "dotty".

Chris Lopes said...

Saw the launch. Looked like rockets to me, but I'm not a "science adviser" to a late night radio talk show that specializes in nonsense, so who knows. My guess is Hoagland will drop the idea in whatever memory hole he puts his (increasing vast) failures.