Monday, June 25, 2018

Bret Sheppard displays first his ignorance, then his vindictiveness

        If you feel the need to listen to three hours of two guys who basically agree about everything shouting at each other, check out Gary Leggiere interviewing Bret Sheppard on The Martian Revelation Show, recorded last Saturday. Bret Sheppard is the guy who knows nothing whatever about spaceflight or physics, but who wrote and self-published a book strongly supporting Ken Johnston's claim that the Apollo 14 astronauts made 16mm film of an alien base in the lunar crater Tsiolkovsky. Naturally, he cannot provide this film sequence as evidence for his claim, nor can he provide any other documentation as backup.

        Sheppard's book, Flyover Tsiolkovsky Crater, has now been withdrawn from circulation, but while it existed it attracted just one Amazon review. That review probably tells you all you need to know about the wretched thing.

        During the Martian Revelation interview, Sheppard did his best to defend the idea that a balloon might be useful on the Moon. He referred to a 1950s-era technology that used a helium balloon to hoist a rocket into the stratosphere, thus avoiding the need to expend large volumes of rocket fuel for the first 1% of a flight, when the pull of Earth gravity is at its strongest.
01:58:03 Sheppard: "NASA used that same thing later to test the atmosphere on the Moon, Mars and Venus. And what would happen is, they would have the balloon, with their [..] diagnostic equipment or whatever on the bottom, and when the Sun would come over the edge of the terminator it would heat up the balloon. The balloon would rise, and—keep this in mind—that we do not know what the atmosphere is. We're completely dependent on what NASA tells us."
        One of the many things that Sheppard does not understand is that science experiments may be carried by NASA spacecraft, but the experiment packages themselves are not built by NASA but by scientists who have successfully applied to have their experiments carried. The principal information we have about the Lunar atmosphere comes from the Lunar Atmosphere Composition Experiment, part of the ALSEP array carried on Apollo 17. It is not NASA telling us these results, but the Principal Investigator of LACE, Dr. John H. Hoffman of the University of Texas, Dallas.

        Much later (2013), the  Lunar Atmosphere and Dust Environment Explorer (LADEE) basically confirmed the ultra-low atmospheric pressure on the Moon. The atmosphere is very comparable to that at 400km above the Earth's surface, where the ISS orbits. The Neutral Mass Spectrometer (NMS) on LADEE was designed by the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado at Boulder. It is them that are telling us the results, not NASA.

        It goes without saying that the experiment Sheppard describes never happened. I'm giggling about the balloon on Venus, a planet whose mean surface temperature is ~460°C.

        Before the Martian Revelation interview ever happened, I suggested to Gary that he might show Bret Sheppard this modern high-resolution image of Tsiolkovsky, from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter NACs, and ask him to point out where the aliens are. On Gary's foo boo page, Sheppard posted:
"You want me to show you on a map that is completely sanitized with CGI for the satisfaction of a bunch of debunkers who protect pedo's in court with false memory syndrome?"
         I lament the fact that Internet argument has now deteriorated to the extent that a belligerent and ignorant person losing a purely technical argument thinks it's all OK to accuse his opponent of advocating pedophilia without any evidence, purely to score a point. I challenge Bret Sheppard to provide evidence that I have ever advocated pedophilia, or retract the accusation publicly.

"I never said that"
        In the same foo boo dialog, Sheppard wrote:
"I never said they used balloons for safe touchdowns. I said they used them for atmospheric experiments like NASA has on both Venus and Mars."
        From Flyover Tsiolkovsky Crater by Bret C. Sheppard, pub. CreateSpace, 2016. ISBN 978-1541162624
"Questions have arisen about the reality of the Lunar landing due to there not being any blast zone under the L.E.M. The craft looks like it touched down gently ... Was it gently deposited on the surface by a balloon?"
        I'd cite a page number but the editor (Karen Patrick) quite forgot to paginate the book.

Thanks to "The Orbs Whiperer [sic]" for leading me to the quotes above.


THE Orbs Whiperer said...

Link to screen shot of quote

Link to thread with quote:

THE Orbs Whiperer said...

The trick is that in order to see the comments, you have to click the teeny, tiny, word, "comments," which is displayed beneath the opening comment of the thread. If you aren't logged on to facebutt, click "not now," on the pop up, in order to access the thread.

THE Orbs Whiperer said...

Re: False Memory Syndrome
<a href="Jacques Vallee Discusses UFO Control System</a>

Vallee: I'm not sure that what we learn under hypnotic regression is useful.

Hypnosis is really a delicate technique and some of the people in our field who are using it are doing more harm than good. If the hypnotist doesn't have medical training - and most of these people have no medical training - the results may be disastrous for the witness. But if the hypnotist does have medical training and doesn't have any knowledge of the subject, he may ask the wrong questions. I think that may have happened in the famous case of Betty and Barney Hill. The hypnotist was extremely skilled but was not especially interested in UFOs and didn't know the background of the problem.

Clark: What can we do, then?

Vallee: I'm not saying that hypnosis has no role to play in UFO investigation, nor that it can't be helpful under certain circumstances when percipients are blocking from their memories something they have seen or experienced.

The thing I really want to emphasize is that the investigator's first responsibility is to the witness and not to the UFO phenomenon. The average witness is in shock because he's had a very traumatic experience; what he's seen is going to change his life. Your intervention, the very fact that you're talking with him about it, is also going to have an effect on him. Now he may say to you, "I need help to understand what I saw," but in fact he needs more immediate help as a human being who is deeply troubled by a very disturbing experience.

Unfortunately this element has been neglected. The more UFO investigators try to appear "professional," the more they ignore that human aspect - and by extension their own ethical obligations. I want to convince my friends in UFO research that whenever we have a choice between obtaining interesting UFO data and taking chances with the life of a human being, we should forget the UFO data.

jim oberg said...

BS: " I said they used them [balloons] for atmospheric experiments like NASA has on both Venus and Mars."

I know the French dropped an aerostat into the Venus atmosphere but I can't recall any NASA interplanetary missions with balloons, what have I overlooked?

expat said...

Nothing, Jim, those experiments came straight out of Bret Sheppard's as... er, imagination.

THE Orbs Whiperer said...

screen shot of James Concannon's comment

James Concannon said...

Yes, I'm still waiting for Sheppard's public retraction. I'm not holding my breath. He's a snake.

Dee said...

Since you mentioned reviews, Expat, last week I stumbled on a fresh Bara review of the new series Strange Angels at IMDB.

It was just great to see it start with a gem like: As the author of a best-selling book (Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA) that deals with Jack Parsons, Crowley, Hubbard and their influence over JPL's occult patterns, I have to say....

Personally not sure about the series or much caring about Bara's review talent but another movie he rated was "Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising"... which was also not unexpected.

Anonymous said...

I know which movie he rated as his personal favorite....

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David Evans said...

"The balloon would rise, and—keep this in mind—that we do not know what the atmosphere is. We're completely dependent on what NASA tells us."

We are not. Telescopic observation of stars as they are occulted by the Moon gives us hard limits on the density of the lunar atmosphere, and has done so since long before the formation of NASA.

expat said...

Excellent point. I'll do my best to get that to Sheppard.

Two Percent said...


Interesting. Can you give me some useful links, please?

So far, have found an article from 1924, and one of Orbs friend's websites.

Trekker said...

Why only NASA, anyway? The Chinese, Japanese, Indians and Russians have also visited the moon. Surely their instruments could confirm what NASA 'told' us.

OneBigMonkey said...

@Trekker - they do indeed confirm NASA's findings, but naturally all in it together blah blah yadayada
More often than not people either don't know about or deliberately ignore any other space agency data.