Tuesday, May 27, 2014

Robert Morningstar has his little joke

        Robert Morningstar, the "civilian intelligence analyst," is one of the darlings of internet woo-woo radio. Why? It's simple -- like Hoagland, Bara, Icke, Hancock, Morton etc., you push his button and away he goes. The interviewer doesn't have to think much or even bother to read the trash these clowns write.

        In a recent outing on OffPlanet radio, hosted by Randy Maugans and Chris Holly, Morningstar was off and running with a strange mixture of humor and error. He surely must have been having a little joke when he told us, very early on, that there was more than one space station in orbit. The other one, he explained, belongs to THE SEEKRIT SPACE PROGRAMnote 1. It's HUGE, he said, and his mate in Hoboken got a great photo of it just the other day. Why haven't the tens of thousands of other amateur astronomers ever seen this? THAT'S THE JOKE, duhhhhh. He suggested it was actually Black Knight, the well-known hoax story that's been around since 1899.

        There were more jokes to come. The US Army moonbase. The story, attributed to Clark McClelland, about a Nordic alien conferring with astronauts in the Shuttle cargo bay, while a massive Black Triangle mothership hovers in the background. Very funny, Robert. I'm sure NASA would have been thoroughly amused as a massive hazard approached the Shuttle dangerously close. Oh yeah.

Planetary astronomy revised
        Then came the errors. This blog has already reported Morningstar's track record of error in respect of the crashed spaceship on the Moon, the dire prediction of city-destroying earthquakes, and the "hangers" [sic] in some Apollo 17 mapping camera frames. Now this genius of our age gave us the pseudo-fact that Jupiter and Saturn used to be stars, but then lost their fusion reactions and devolved into gas giants. He talked himself into that one because he was developing the theory that the Gray aliens came from Titan, so he needed to warm Titan up a bit. Just to get life started, don'cha know. He says the US Gubbmint has an alliance with the Nordics against the Grays. He wrapped that in with Felisa Wolfe-Simon's arsenic-tolerant extremophile bacteria GFAJ-1 -- managing to misunderstand Wolfe-Simon's research very thoroughlynote 2. Oh, maybe this was more joking, come to think of it.

        Then we were off to Mars, with a bullshit notion that the Tharsis Montes are an exact representation of the layout of the pyramids of Giza (they are not), and the pseudo-fact that the very word Cairo means Mars (it does not, it means The Conqueror. A word for Egypt is Mas'r, which has nothing to do with the Red Planet).

        OffPlanet radio's promo described Morningstar as...

"A man you can truly learn from. Men like Morningstar are the men who will reignite our brains in to [sic] finding answers by way of knowledge and great thinking."

        I can only assume that was their little joke. And oh, by the way, this hour of fun-and-games was only Part 1. There's another whole hour to come, but I'm not sure I can stand to listen.

Update:
        In e-mail, Chris Holly questions my credentials and expresses flagrant disgust:
"I ... want nothing to do with whoever this expat jerk is and do find him a hate filled arrogant fool who really thinks he knows what he is talking about but is very mis informed.  Expat needs a name and a punch in his nasty mouth   .  I doubt he has any personal experience at all in any of these subjects much less information that is not soaked in mean spirited rejection of things he knows nothing about due to the fact those things may frighten him poop less."
        I reiterate what I have written previously: I'm an acknowledged expert in the history of Apollo and Shuttle, plus to a lesser extent NASA's Mars and Lunar orbiters. I have met and interviewed key figures in the space programs of the USA and Russia. Contemplating the errors of amateur observers like Robert AM* does not frighten me in the slightest.

        Holly also implies that "Bigelows space station" is the space station AM* was referring to. If so, that is manifestly absurd. How can a Bigelow-designed orbiter belong to the SECRET space program???? Genesis II is not a space station, it's an experimental habitat. It is not, and never could have been, peopled. In addition, AM* specifically referred to something very large, and Bigelow is not Big. Genesis II's pressurized volume is 11.5 m3 (cf. 837 m3 for the ISS). Nice try, Chris Holly. Your pal is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Update 2:
        In a further brief e-mail, I asked Chris Holly how such a small orbiter, with no facilities for human crew, could be classified as a space station. I got this answer:

"Look Expat , go get a life and do not annoy me with your hate and denail of things you can not deal with. How about this , man to woman, get lost I think your a jerk and a loser who I want no part of and do not care about at all what you think, do , go  none of it. I am busy and have no time for you, dime a dozen downers... lets just call you not in my life so  end it now and leave me alone please, I  have a big life with lots going on and really think you should think what you want, and I will do things my way.  Your a NASA bleiver which is hilarious , I bet you love your government and think our fighting men are fools, go away please."

I presume that could all be summed up as "Gee...I don't know."

Update 3:
        Well, I did in fact listen to the second AM* interview, which went way over an hour. As it turned out, there wasn't much of my type of material in it -- other than a reiteration of the obviously false claim that the voice recording equipment in the Apollo Command Module was installed without the astronauts' knowledge. For it to do its job effectively--reporting some terrible accident behind the Moon--they had to know it was there. note 3

        Almost all of the interview was mythology, UFOs, abductions -- not my area of expertise at all. What stuck in my mind was that AM* claims personal experience of alien encounters. He related how he successfully thwarted an attack by an alien monster reaching a "three-fingered claw" towards him in a bid to steal his soul.

I believe Robert AM* practices psychiatry.
 
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1] He was promoting the Secret Space Program conference, coming to an astonished San Mateo Event Center this summer.
2] He added that Felisa Wolfe-Simon is an example of someone who got slapped down by the "establishment" for daring to suggest there was evidence for extraterrestrial life. The facts are that "Iron Lisa" never said any such thing, and she was slapped down because her research was faulty.
3] Here's the CM instrument panel. If, as AM* claims,  the astronauts didn't know about the voice recorder, they sure must have wondered WTF that switch labeled TAPE RECORDER was down in the bottom row of Panel C.

26 comments:

Binaryspellbook said...

This guy is off his rocker. I absolutely wonder about radio hosts. Are they all just dumb. Why don't they jump all over buffoons such as Morningstar, Hoagland, Bara, Wilcock et al.

The only guys I have heard get anywhere near a hardball game was Gene and Chris on the paracast. When they verbally punched the shit out of Sean David Morton and a couple of others just before Mike Bara was interviewed by them.

Then they had Expat on to complete the mockery.

Anonymous said...

Does it physically hurt Expat to be so full of hate and darkness that you need to spend your time spewing your rage at others instead of maybe producing something worthwhile to read. You act like a homely high school girl who hates the pretty cheerleader and has gotten so dark and black of heart that only sludge drips from your mean heart.

Why is it you do not use your name and make these attacks under that ridiculous Expat nonsense. Why do you have a photo posted that looks nothing like you but does look like a mean dark bastard? Is that how you really see your self. You really need to find a better way to express your views and deal with the world as hate turns the stomach of most people. You sure have a knack for that but why not try just writing your opinions and posting your research and climb out of everyone else s life with your back biting bull thanks have a good day

PS I bet you will not post this as a bully always likes to hit and run away

Anonymous said...

on your..."....Why? It's simple -- like Hoagland, Bara, Icke, Hancock, Morton etc., you push his button and away he goes. The interviewer doesn't have to think much or even bother to read the trash these clowns write. "

Be so kind and please name and explain a few errors of David Icke ?

expat said...

Anon: Of course I've posted your attack -- who d'you think I am, Mike Bara? He's the dude who refuses to post anything "negative" on his blog.

There's no hate in what I do, dear anon. I'm trained in physics and I have some expertise in space exploration, and I think it's a good use of these gifts to correct the misinformation that is now flooding the media. Robert AM* has such a consistent record of error that I'm frankly surprised that more people don't correct him. But you'll notice I do not hand out any insults along with my objections -- again, I'm not Mike Bara.

>>Why is it you do not use your name and make these attacks under that ridiculous Expat nonsense.<<

It's because both Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara have threatened me with lawsuits. I have no wish to go through the agony of a legal fight regardless of the fact that I would certainly win.

>>Why do you have a photo posted that looks nothing like you but does look like a mean dark bastard?<<

How would you know whether the photo looks like me?

I think you are Chris Holly of OffPlanet radio and if I'm right, please draw my criticisms to the attention of AM*. I'll be reviewing the second hour of your interview this weekend.

expat said...

>>Be so kind and please name and explain a few errors of David Icke ? <<

Homeopathy. It's nonsense.

Vaccine denial. It's dangerous.

AIDS denial. It's illogical.

Claim that he's the son of God. It's patently untrue.

There's more but that'll do.

expat said...

Updated

expat said...

Updated again

Anonymous said...

thank you for your following reply

"Homeopathy. It's nonsense.
Vaccine denial. It's dangerous.
AIDS denial. It's illogical.
Claim that he's the son of God. It's patently untrue.
There's more but that'll do."

may I kindly remind you that I asked for explanations and that I did not ask for mere biased opinions. Clint Eastwood was right when he said " Opinions are like arseholes...everybody has one"

So I ask my question again...please explain like you ask the tosser Mike Bara again and again for explanations, scientific relevance and proof.

a reasonable and fair question given the fact that this is your line of business on this blog

with kind regards
A3

Trekker said...

You have to love the incoherent rant that your second update contains! I thought interviewers had to have a semblance of being literate...seems I was wrong!

expat said...

Yes, she has a screeching New Yawk accent, too.

Chris Holly said...

I think you are rather insane James or Martin or whatever name you like to use for what ever purpose you need however I really am glad you post all your private emails and make constant personal attacks towards people who do not know you do not want to know you. You do not have one nice quality at all about you. It does not matter if you or your small amount of readers agree with you or me , it amazes me that after seeing how you stalk and name call and attack people they return to feed your sick twisted mind. You are a small little no one who hides behind fake names and computers because you do not have the brains or courage to attack people face to face. I bet you have few friends in life and without question no family to speak of as you are a cruel black hear ted angry man . You and those who feed your ill ways; As I said before men like you that hide and bully and stalk on the net are a dime a dozen. Swim on fool in your little pond big fish world but know in the real world you would be swallowed in seconds. BTW your credentials are not much compared to those of the people you attack. A big fish in his little pond or kiddie pool full of hate and anger. Sort of funny even if it is sad. Write all you want little boy, it is now old and tiresome. Maybe Robert Morinngstar can suggest a good therapist to help you with your hate and stalking issues

expat said...

Thanks for taking an interest, Chris. I've criticized Robert AM* because his facts are wrong. The personal attacks are coming in the other direction, as I think anyone can see right now.

expat said...

One more update, on Part 2 of the OffPlanet interview.

expat said...

Anonymous: I only have time for a partial answer, sorry.

Homeopathy doesn't work. It can't possibly work. The notion that water has a memory has no merit or credibility. Study after study has shown it is no more effective than placebo. More here.

The current measles epidemic is a fine illustration of the danger of vaccine denial. More here.

chris holly said...

Of course , it is clear ,after I stopped and gave this fool two seconds of time to think for a second and realize that this man and his little blog are paid debunkers as it is obvious with the manner this guy is going after Moringstar, and me that we must have touched closely on something that someone else wants to debunk . Sadly they hire clowns like this one to do stabbing attacks when for whatever reason it may be people get too close to truth. That is what is going on here clearly, otherwise why would some dupe get his panties in such a twist over what someone thinks or bleieves.

By the way I NEVER HAD AN EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH ANYONE CALLED EXPAT OR ANYONE CLAIMING TO BE FROM THIS LITTLE BLOG. How is it that a private email exchange I had with a man who identified himself as Martin Blaise shows up and is claimed by expat to be between me and him???? I never EVER had any emials or exchages with expat???

I know expat also goes by the name James Concaonnon which proves pretty much he is simply paid to discredit those who get too close to real issues by throwing tantrums that he is right and everyone else in the world wrong.

What a fake phoney fraud unethical lying dog this man is , ooooh I feel dirty being on his site but just wanted all 8 or his readers to know what a low life your expat pal really is.

expat said...

Paid debunkers???? Where do I pick up the check?

Chris Lopes said...

Ah yes, the old paid debunkers gambit. I haven't heard that one since before Hoagie finally figured out how to block people on his FB page. It was his claim about anyone who was scientifically literate and questioned him. He used it as a dog whistle to let the rest of his cult know that said person was to be considered an enemy and ignored. Ignorance is not only bliss in that world, it's a necessity.

expat said...

Dear Chris Holly: I'm sorry I mocked your accent. As one who speaks non-standard American myself, I shouldn't have done that. I confess I was also thinking it was pretty funny that you excused yourself to go for a piss during the second interview, and that was ungentlemanly of me. Tut-tut.

Your invective is quite impressive, but I do wish you'd address the ISSUES. By way of encouraging you, here's a simplified list.

1. There is no second, HUGE, space station in Earth orbit.
2. There is no US Army base on the Moon. Even a small one would be visible.
3. Clark McClelland's story about a giant alien in the Shuttle cargo bay is a fantasy.
4. There is no possibility that Jupiter and Saturn were once stars. Three stars in such close proximity would merge into one.
5. Felisa Wolfe-Simon never claimed that GFAJ-1 was evidence of extraterrestrial life.
6. She was "slapped down" because Rosie Redfield and others proved that arsenic was not in fact incorporated in the DNA structure.
7. The layout of Tharsis Montes is not identical with the Giza pyramids.
8. Cairo does not translate as Mars.

Anonymous said...



expat: "Homeopathy doesn't work. It can't possibly work. The notion that water has a memory has no merit or credibility. Study after study has shown it is no more effective than placebo. More here.

The current measles epidemic is a fine illustration of the danger of vaccine denial. More here"

pity you do not have more time to back up your posted claims. It shows given the fact that you provide a wikipedia-link as proof. Since when is wackopedia...I mean wikipedia a poster child for the truth?? You know as well as I do that this will not suffice to back up one of your claims. Truth be told...you simply would accept such an answer from the great tosser Bara.

In reference to your vaccin proof link - please take some time in your bust schedule to read and study the following "for example" since you took the measles as an example

According to the NY State Department of Health a whopping TWO out of 20 people infected during a measles outbreak were children whose parents had opted not to vaccinate. This, of course, means that 18 of the people infected WERE vaccinated.

[verifiable data by the way]

for clarity...I am nobodies bunker or debunker...but firing off unsubstantiated biased opinions and claims as proof....well...is that not Bara's cup of tea :-)

Given the fact that you have / had little time...let's focus then on on of your statements

"Claim that he's the son of God. It's patently untrue"

Where/when did David Icke said/wrote that?

and please don't wikipedia your way out of it :-)
Really...you are far to intelligent for "that kind a crap..."

with kind regards
A3

expat said...

Anon:
A link to the facts about homeopathy

The link between vaccine refusal and measles outbreaks seems clear from the link I already posted. I can't explain your NY data other than to remark that it's an extremely small sample.

Icke announced that he was "the son of God" in 1991, on Terry Wogan's TV chat show. He predicted that Britain would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.

Icke is a crazy man.

Anonymous said...

in reply to your "
Icke announced that he was "the son of God" in 1991, on Terry Wogan's TV chat show. He predicted that Britain would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.

Icke is a crazy man."

I'm sorry is this the best you can offer....?

Clearly...in this specific peace of talkshow...he's notclaiming that at all. Are you in this case familiar with the term context, sarcasm and euphemism?? all in order to make a point??

Have you noticed...that when the questions become difficult and specific you use the same method of reasoning as Bara and ilk?? Why is that?

Anonymous said...

addendum on my previous reaction:

Concerning context and all that....

David Icke in his writings specifically states that "a guy called Jesus" son of god or not never existed.

So in this case the whole point of the claim that he is seriously claiming to be the son of god like jesus is....well....rather hilarious and a joke

But I grand you...it does rather well as a smear campaign and character assassination on media like wackopedia :-)

your remark concerning vaccines:

If you can't explain it...that does not mean that is not there

expat said...

>>Have you noticed...that when the questions become difficult and specific you use the same method of reasoning as Bara and ilk?? <<

No, I haven't. I never use insult as a substitute for rational argument.

Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost said...

For someone who considers you a puny, unqualified malcontent not worthy of her precious time, Chris Holly sure seems to spend a lot of it here.

expat said...

Yes, and I noticed that she wrote "By the way I NEVER HAD AN EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH ANYONE CALLED EXPAT..."

Her quoted e-mail message begins "Look, Expat, go get a life..."

Anonymous said...

I just heard this Morningstar character for the first time today. He is so obviously a con man. Not unlike the others you have mentioned.
It is amazing to me how people fall for these liars. To the point that they will ignore facts and react with opposition with religious like fervor....oh, and buy their books, movies, conferences, etc.
But, maybe not so surprising given my study of the cluster b personality disorders (narcs, anti-soc, psychopath). These types of "sociopaths" are so good at selling people a bill of goods. Sad. Slick, charming, fast talking and full of bs. When will people wake up?