Tuesday, July 23, 2019

James Oberg on the myths of Apollo

        James Oberg sent me a review copy of a Powerpoint presentation he's giving at the Apollo 11 splashdown party in Houston tomorrow night. Here's an adapted excerpt.

"According to hitherto unconfirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on 21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a crater during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard."

—Above Top Secret: The worldwide UFO Cover-Up by Timothy Good (Quill, Sept. 1989)

As the original story spread and greatly ‘improved’, more and more people stepped forward with claims they had heard even more spectacular versions.

"Well, it happened. Close friends and very close family members of both Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin have separately told me that indeed there were numerous, large UFOs around the crater where the Lunar Module landed and that these were seen by both Armstrong and Aldrin. I have also spoken to military officers that have seen the footage of this event — but it has never been made public."

—Dr. Steven Greer.

National Bulletin tabloid [September 29,1969] "Phony Transmission Failure Hides Apollo 11 Discovery. . . . Moon is a U.F.O. Base!" by Sam Pepper

Armstrong: “I'm telling you, there are other spacecraft out there. They're lined up in ranks on the far side of the crater edge.... “

Charles Berlitz, THE ROSWELL INCIDENT, 1980: “When Apollo 11 landed inside a moon crater two unidentified spacecrafts appeared on the crater rim and then took off again.

Ken   Johnston, “Alien Bases on the Moon” [Science Channel, 2014] “There have been a lot of rumors about what actually took place during the lunar mission. while Neil and Buzz were on the lunar surface.      …Neil …says , ‘They’re here, they’re parked around the rim of the crater and they’re watching us. “

The Real Story
Actual transcript during Apollo 11 moon walk:

110:37:09 “I did see a suspiciously small white object.”
110:37:25 “Go ahead with the coordinates on the small white object.”
110:37:28 “ It's right on the southwest rim of a crater . I think they would know it if they were in such a location. It looks like their LM would be pitched up quite a degree. It's on the southwest wall of a smallish crater

During the moon walk by Armstrong and Aldrin, there was also a conversation going on with Collins, and these two independent conversations were interleaved on the same voice channel.

Collins describes the search, from Apollo 11 Crew Technical Debriefing p. 11-2

"The problem was I didn't know where the LM was , and the ground didn't either . There is too much real estate down there within the intended landing zone to scan on one, two, three, or four passes.

On each pass , I could do a decent job of scanning one or two grid squares on the expanded map. That map is the 1:100 000 map called LAM 2. The ground was giving me coordinates in the grid square coordinate system that were as much as 10 squares apart. This told me they didn't really have much of a handle at all on where the LM had landed.

As I say, it was just too large an area for me to visually scan . I used AUTO optics each time I looked at the area they suggested.

I never did see the LM."


Dust of the Sun said...

What do you make of John Lear's assertion that we never went to the moon...he has some compelling things to say about this.

expat said...

That's not exactly what John Lear says. On the contrary, he says that 4,000 astronauts from the US Strategic Command landed on the Moon in 1962, on Mars in 1966. He also says the Moon has a breathable atmosphere.

What do I make of this? Symptoms of mental illness.

Chris Lopes said...

The crazies do seem to be split on this. Some belong to the "we never went there sect". Some worship at the "we went there with sekrit alien/Nazi tech and have Moon bases" church. And still others like some hybrid of the 2. That the US could have embarked on a years long technological campaign to reach the Moon (for admittedly political purposes) and succeeded by stretching the scientific boundaries seems impossible to them.

OneBigMonkey said...

There is also the very strong possibility that this story is not a 'Chinese whispers' mutation and misunderstanding of actual dialogue, but something that falls into the category of people "making shit up", usually for money.