First up was conspiracy theorist Jim Marrs, who perhaps should have stuck to JFK assassination theories, a topic on which he still has a modicum of credibility. On this occasion he told his audience that NASA offers us no better resolution of images of the Moon and Mars than 100 yards, and at that, they all have "blurred out areas." One wonders where he's been for the last 20 years.
Jason Martell was an unfamiliar name to me — although I guess I must have seen him on the all-bullshit cable TV show Ancient Aliens, and I probably read Jason Colavito's scholarly put-down in 2013. On the basis of an Arts degree from Mira Costa (a minor community college in S. California) Martell styles himself an expert in ancient technology. His youchoob demo of the Baghdad battery has given many a laugh to people who actually understand electro-plating. His ideas about astronomy are mind-bogglingly incorrect. Here he goes, on the subject of precession and binary star systems:
51:06 "Over 30 ancient cultures used astronomy, and basically used the 12 houses of the zodiac that we have today as like a grand celestial clock. And I've been starting to come in alignment with the idea that the ancients knew a lot more about the rise and fall of civilization, the repeating pattern that seems to happen here on Earth. You guys have heard of the Dark Ages, and the Golden Age -- well, these seem to be terms connected to a larger cycle of time, that the ancients were aware of. Precession today is based on what they call some wobble on the Earth caused by the gravitational pull of the Moon, and various things. And there's like 2,000 variables to it -- to describe the precession of the equinoxes. It's really kind-of out of control. There's a new model that's been catching a lot of publicity, based on some of the new science we have in space -- looking externally at other solar systems. Most solar systems are binary. We're starting to see that they have at least two suns -- sometimes even six, an intricate dance. So it's very possible that we are a binary solar system -- that we actually have two suns. Our second sun would probably be a brown dwarf -- a dark star at this point, not giving off a lot of heat, not very easy to detect. But a lot of the evidence is pointing to the fact that if we are a binary solar system, the model to explain precession is getting disrupted. If we are a binary, that means that we have two suns in orbit around each other .... so that means that our Sun is literally orbiting around another sun. ?? concept, because that means that we too are moving along through space. If we're orbiting the Sun, we're going along on that journey as its orbit takes place. So there seems to be a correlation between the orbit of these two suns -- and when the suns are at their farthest point we're in the Dark Ages. When the suns are at their closest point we're in the Golden Age. [gesture indicating two objects coming together] Now, if you think about this for a second, this is a very large cycle of time -- a 24,000-year cycle -- and the ancients watched this by every 2,000 years we kind-of point to a new north star, a new direction.Well, let's see... The mathematics of precession are very well understood. Lunisolar precession is caused by the gravitational forces of the Moon and Sun on Earth's equatorial bulge, causing Earth's axis to move with respect to inertial space. Planetary precession is due to the small angle between the gravitational force of the other planets on Earth and the ecliptic, causing the plane of the ecliptic to shift slightly relative to inertial spacenote 1. There is absolutely nothing "out of control" about it.
[repeats the point]
If you think about that, all the energy we get from the sun -- you wake up in the morning, you feel the sunlight, gets us going... plants that lean towards the sun. Everything slows down when it's cold. What if we could introduce the electro-magnetism, or whatever these energies are, of two suns, and it exponentially wakens us, so gives us the ability to tap into a higher consciousness. And this is what seems to be taking place."
Binary stars are reasonably common in the universe but it's
But Martell's biggest screaming error was in describing the two suns as varying from a very distant approach to a very close approach over a cycle of 24,000 years, giving rise to a cycle between Dark Age and Golden Age. In fact, stars in binary formation rotate about their common barycenter, and the distance between them does not necessarily vary greatly or even at all. As for "tap into a higher consciousness," I don't know what that means and I bet the panelists don't really know either, although I don't doubt that they all use that phrase or something similar.
The audience applauded at the end of this train-wreck of a lecture. If I'd been there I'd have thrown rotten fruit. Binary tomatoes, perhaps.
 OK, I confess. I copied those two sentences from wikipedia.
 Astroguy corrects me on this point -- see first comment.
 The three are orbit around just one of the stars (S-type orbit,) orbit around both (P-type,) and orbit alternately around star A and star B (the figure-eight orbit.)
Last I heard estimates are that 60-80% of stars are binary.
Just only watched the first few minutes but I found it already very confusing that the presenter Robert Perala was introducing the panel with "do you believe in ghosts, the supernatural?" and "is your furniture moving by itself?". Then stating people affirming this would have come "to the right place"...
Really? This is supposed to be about ancient aliens and not the current visitations then I presume? But it's introduced like it's all about ghosts? So we're already been assured right there and then that no actual critical UFO, craft and encounter investigations or analysis will follow but more of the scraping at the bottom of the barrel of that subject.
It's at that point I cannot continue watching just to find out if someone will make some connections between aliens of the past and current haunted houses.
Not to mention I see the panel contains also Celeste Yarnall who aims to "restore the importance of the Annunaki Goddesses in Ancient Alien theory" and her hypothesis includes "that the Creatrix Goddess Ninmah encoded messages to benefit our future in our mt DNA".
The audience members paid $10 to sit there on top of at least one $20 Friday admission to the event. The sizable room is 13,858 square feet but it's unclear to me how much of it was used or the attendance rate. It's California of course so events like this fill up magically all by themselves.
Indeed, it was as if Perala had his scripts mixed up -- he was introducing a whole different panel.
I wanted to suffer through Celeste, just out of curiosity, but her audio was so bad I couldn't understand it.
Ah yes of course, perhaps a mix-up with the "Psychic Phenomena Panel" on Sunday morning - hosted by Joseph Martin - would be a good candidate. One only is left to wonder at what exact moment he was realizing the mistake, if at all. And if so, if he cared at all and if anyone with half a conscience could actually attend these kind of conferences or panels anywhere near sober.
does anyone know if Hoagie has been on a radio show lately? It's just occurred to me I haven't heard him talk about mars or comets for months?
He has, if you count his wife's two-hour internet radio show on freedomslips.com. He was on that just this week, and I expect all ten listeners enjoyed it.
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