Anyway, back he was, and as crazy as ever. He reported progress on his new book, The Heritage of Mars: Remembering Forever, which he first announced back in November 2000, then announced again in April 2012. The progress -- "I'm working on it, hoping to have it out by 2016"note 2. Not exactly a fast worker, our Richard.
The conversation was very wide-ranging, taking in world politics as well as the "face" on Mars, the "glass" on the Moon, and other silliness. Hoagland proclaimed, as he has on several previous occasions, that we are in a "pre-disclosure" situation. His main thesis was that three separate space agencies are "leaking like crazy," and that must mean something. Here are his data points.
John Wells just rolled over and played Noory. In other words, he lapped up this nonsense as if it were true. He didn't remark, for instance, that there is no contextual support for the "femur." Sure, it looks a bit like a human femur, but if it were, wouldn't there be other bones lying around as well? Wouldn't the house this human once lived in, the place where he went to work, be visible?
Wells didn't so much as ask how Hoagland thought he knew that 67P was a space station. Nor how publication of an image exactly as had been long anticipated could amount to "disclosure." He didn't understand image processing well enough to understand how Hoagland had manipulated the Chang'e picture to make the "glass" appear (this blog explained it back in April).
Isis
So then we moved on to world politics. Hoagland made some very strong statements about the apocalyptic threat posed by the Islamic Caliphate Army, currently rampaging through the Middle East making the heads of infidels roll.
Hard to disagree with that. But then he went off into cloud-cuckoo land over the name ISISnote 3. It won't surprise readers of this blog to know that he instantly connected it with the Egyptian god Isis. Neither he nor Wells stopped to think that a) an acronym is not a name, or b) that ISIS is only a transliteration of whatever is the arabic equivalent of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or c) that more recently these thugs have been referring to themselves as just the "Islamic State", implying that their brutal ambitions may stretch beyond the I and the Snote 4. Hoagland misunderstood everything to the point of saying this:
"My colleague Stan Tenen, who's been doing for 30 years amazing language studies ... he is of the opinion that what you name something is very close to its intrinsic hyperdimensional torsion field wave packet."
To me, that sentence has no conceivable meaning. Hoagland added:
"I know this sounds like mumbo-jumbo to most people, because they haven't studied it."
He's right about that. It does sound like mumbo-jumbo. Actually it is mumbo-jumbo. Where would I study hyperdimensional torsion field wave packets, assuming I wished to?
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[1] That link may not work for long, since the show is supposed to be pay-per-view.
[2] According to Hoagland, 2016 is the "key year" when all the things that didn't happen in December 2012 will really happen. He didn't say how he knows that. And I guess he forgot that he claimed that 2010 was "the year of disclosure."
[3] At one point he was playing the same game with the International Space Station, calling it IS(i)S.
[4] The original arabic is ad-Dawlah l-'Isla-miyyah .
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So he isn't sick or even tired of the woo-biz. It appears to be more like Noory (and some others in the woo world) not wanting to have anything to do with him. Interestingly enough, Wells was the more popular host on C2C, so maybe Hoagland isn't completely lost in the wilderness yet.
As to his material, it's more of the same as always. I mean who here couldn't have called the ISIS thing? It's more pareidolia, more comet is a spaceship, more magic physics. Admittedly the words are hyper dimensional is new, but it sounds more like Hoagie sliding further down the rabbit hole of magic.
Then there is the book he is supposed to be working on. I consider his inability to finish it a gift from whatever deity runs the Universe. Imagine an entire book filled with the same rambling and mind numbing prose that is in his papers and his 3 hour presentations. It would drive you mad if you read it.
Was only a matter of time before we were told that Comet 67P Churyumov-Gerasimenko was artificial. Like Elenin, Phobos, Deimos, Hale-Bopp, Ison. I was going to say he's finally lost it. But remember what he said of Hale-Bopp.......
"Hoagland said, regarding the projected arrival in 1997, "what is stunning is the timing", as by his calculations this is the correct ending of the "Mayan Calendar" which was to end on December 23, 2012. Hoagland stated that "because of errors in our own calendar" that it is "later than you think", and that 1997 is the "end of the fabled Mayan Calendar". Hoagland stated that he felt the Mayan Calendar date "is critical now", as without intervention there will be "increased geological activity". After a lengthy discussion about various alien and human takeover agendas and predictions on pending geological changes, Hoagland responded to a question, saying "Why would someone try to confuse us? Answer: to distract us. If the physics is mandating major geological changes, and we are distracted both individually and governmentally into looking in the wrong directions until the clock strikes one, then maybe somebody doesn't have to lift a finger because nature will take care of, quote, the problem."
So Hoagland back then was saying the Mayan calendar according to his calculations ended in 1997 when conveniently Hale-Bopp was in the news. Then in 2012 Hoagland declared that this was the end of the Mayan calendar. Latterly he has being saying the real end is in 2016. He's such a fucking transparent, liar bastard.
Wheel chevron marks are visible in the lower right of the "femur" photo. Curiosity's wheels are only 40 cm wide, so RCH's femur is only about 10 cm long at the most.
Also, I like how the passage of the rover broke up some of the rocks under the wheel, but left this presumably millions of years old bone intact. Why isn't Hoagland taken seriously, again?
Very good point, Jourget. Thanks.
What a genius. He is writing a historic record to catalog and preserve all of the nonsense he has fabricated about Mars in the first place.
This pseudo-scientist / clown has made one true scientific advance; he was able to send me into a state of synesthesia. I heard colors and saw sound the night when this nitwit was on Noory a couple of years ago and was able to deduce out of thin air that Nazi space colonies were aligned with "The Powers on Earth" to blow up the World Trade Center and all he needed was Dr Judy Wood and Jesse Ventura to prove it.
Jourget: "Also, I like how the passage of the rover broke up some of the rocks under the wheel, but left this presumably millions of years old bone intact."
If the claim really was "millions of years" then it would likely be an example of concretion: some mineralized shape which surely could withstand a wheel with its solid content. Not sure how brittle actual fossils generally are but my point is that it doesn't have to be a fossil technically and still represent in theory the remains of a bone. Perhaps it's supposed to be a recent bone and the Rabbit of Caerbannog is lurking nearby!
The rocks which broke up under the wheels were I believe hydrated minerals -- hence the light interior and the existing fractures triggered by a nuclear powered rover waltzing all over it.
Dee
Ok I see the femur, but where is the dead tapir that the early hominid killed with it?
Sorry I haven't been around, friends. But oh, what a joy it is to come back here and find a prize like, "...what you name something is very close to its intrinsic hyperdimensional torsion field wave packet" waiting for me.
It is as though Christmas has come early.
By the way, it's now five days later and he still has not posted the images he promised to put up on enterprisemishmash.
They aren't on John Wells's site either, unless perhaps only visible to members.
I had to smile when, poking around there, I noticed he has Judy Wood's self-published book Where Did the Towers Go? as "book of the month." The bloody thing was published in 2010. Anyone who needs a briefing on who Judy Wood is, is advised to read her entry in the Rational Wiki.
The whole "hyperdimensional torsion field wave packets" thing is just plain stupid. Different people have different names for all kinds of things. If I call a rock Isis and someone else calls it Fred, neither one of us is really giving the rock any hidden power. The name of a thing is an abstract and ever changing concept, done in a multitude of languages over a number of years. Hoagland's been reading too many fantasy books where words have a magic power of their own. Abracadabra and all that.
Expat ended the article musing: "Where would I study hyperdimensional torsion field wave packets, assuming I wished to?"
Sounds like a challenge which I'd like to take on briefly. Based on the hypothesis that original research is not something one could ever accuse Hoagland of (although attribution perhaps neither or appears rather random at least), here are some pointers for the possible origin of the idea of "torsion field wave packets" and their relation to intent or "naming" and perhaps everything under the sun.
First there's the (essentially discredited as far as his later work written in isolation goes) Russian astrophysicist of note Dr. Kozyrev. It's all about a revision of the aether (vacuum energy) in terms of torsion and spin. See also here. Quote:
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"Over the years, all of the following processes were discovered to create a "time flow" of torsion waves in the laboratory, due to their disruption of matter in some form: the deforming of a physical object; the encounter of an air jet with an obstacle; the operation of an hourglass filled with sand; the absorption of light; friction; burning; the actions of an observer, such as a movement of the head; the heating or cooling of an object; phase transitions in substances (frozen to liquid, liquid to vapour, etc.); dissolving and mixing substances; the fading death of plants; nonlight radiation from astronomical objects; and sudden changes in human consciousness. Other than the perplexing final item related to consciousness, we can readily see how each process is disturbing matter in some way, thus causing it to absorb or release minute amounts of its aetheric "water", which fits perfectly with our sponge analogy.
Even more importantly, the fact that strong emotional energy could also cause a measurable at-a-distance reaction has been repeatedly documented not just by Dr Kozyrev but many others, and this is where our concepts of psychic phenomena and consciousness come into the picture."
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Science philosopher and established author Ervin Laszo also wrote a lot about this topic in terms of a "quantum consciousness". Here are also clearly references to those "packets".
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Interaction between particles and the vacuum through secondary fields generated by charged particles is the bases of yet another theory, by the Russian physicists G.I. Shipov, A.E. Akimov and colleagues. They suggest that vortices are created in what they term the "physical vacuum" by the spin of charged particles (Akimov at al. 1997, Akimov & Tarasenko 1992, Shipov 1998). The theory modifies and generalizes Dirac's electron-positron model: the vacuum's energy field is considered a system of rotating wave packets of electrons and positrons, rather than a sea of electron-positron pairs. Where the wave packets are mutually embedded, the torsion field is electrically neutral. If the spins of the embedded packets have the opposite sign, the system in compensated not only in charge, but also in classical spin and magnetic moment. Such a system is said to be a "phyton". Dens ensembles of phytons approximate a simplified model of the torsion field in the physical vacuum." -- from The Connectivity Hypothesis: Foundations of an Integral Science of Quantum, Cosmos, Life and Consciousness (2003) but also appears in Science and the Akashic Field: An Integral Theory of Everything (2004).
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Dee
My guess is that I didn't post the URL correctly, but the first quote was from David Wilcock (card carrying member of the TEM out-to-lunch cooking squad). That quote and some more background can be found on Kozyrev: Aether, Time and Torsion. Note: I didn't evaluate the content but I suppose some of it might quality as reasonable speculation in the scientific sense mixed with plain conjecture and leaving out any past dispute or refutal.
It's pretty amazing that someone with nothing more than a high school diploma can understand the high level math of a wave packet. I mean if Hoagland didn't understand this, how could he speak authoritatively on the subject?
GFP2216: That's nothing to Hoagland. He has consistently stated that hyperdimensional physics is based on Maxwell's original 20 quaternion equations, before they were vectorized and trimmed down to the equations that are taught today. An idea he stole unashamedly from Tom Bearden.
Neither Hoagland nor Bara has the slightest chance of understanding quaternions. I'm pretty good at math and I sure can't.
It's over my head, expat. I'll admit this is the first I've even heard of quaternion equations.
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