tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post7219697483318089245..comments2023-12-19T09:40:12.020-08:00Comments on The Emoluments of Mars: Oberg vs. Bassettexpathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-22129897532204572242019-07-08T13:44:45.180-07:002019-07-08T13:44:45.180-07:00Thank you Trekker; a breath of fresh air, here. S...Thank you Trekker; a breath of fresh air, here. Such an obviously reasonable observation which seems to elude the obfuscatorious, Jiminy Oddbird.Dirk Hardlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-65336120593786803772019-07-07T18:38:24.720-07:002019-07-07T18:38:24.720-07:00David Evans, wouldn't you think, though, that ...David Evans, wouldn't you think, though, that pilots should make it their business to know when Venus is visible, which direction it's in, and how bright it is, etc., given the fact that it CAN be mistaken for an oncoming aircraft? It would prevent incidents like the Air Canada one, and the ensuing embarrassment to the pilot, not to mention the claims from the 14 injured passengers.Trekkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-28801527778817152912019-07-07T14:45:21.458-07:002019-07-07T14:45:21.458-07:00There must be no law against military pilots drink...There must be no law against military pilots drinking and flying. Boy, are they flying.Dick Hardernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-1600971754970278652019-07-07T07:32:01.669-07:002019-07-07T07:32:01.669-07:00The Venus incident is understandable. I have mista...The Venus incident is understandable. I have mistaken Venus for an aircraft landing light (both being essentially a bright white dot), and if you actually have a landing light straight ahead there's not much time for thinking.<br /><br />This does not mean that if a pilot, or anyone else, reports seeing a solid metallic-looking disk of an appreciable size Venus is a good explanation.David Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13590531184544289491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-59504816038814441522019-07-06T09:38:13.886-07:002019-07-06T09:38:13.886-07:00I'm not ridiculing anyone. I'm just pointi...I'm not ridiculing anyone. I'm just pointing out the limits of their expertise. Just like being a scientist doesn't mean you know the answers to every public policy question, being a pilot doesn't mean you know about everything in the sky.Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-3734126485653874712019-07-05T16:01:14.798-07:002019-07-05T16:01:14.798-07:00Ridicule isn't necessary, but a good eye-roll ...Ridicule isn't necessary, but a good eye-roll is quite appropriate in the circumstances, especially where such a known object as Venus is concerned.Trekkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-61228091087557993732019-07-05T11:01:09.623-07:002019-07-05T11:01:09.623-07:00I think it's important to ridicule those dumba...I think it's important to ridicule those dumbass pilots, so they don't dare to alarm the public with such irresponsible gossip.Dick Hardernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-34540253861991707312019-07-05T00:40:09.155-07:002019-07-05T00:40:09.155-07:00Pilots are observers in the sense that they know w...Pilots are observers in the sense that they know what's going on in and around their aircraft. They aren't astronomers or atmospheric scientists. Their specific skill set revolves around getting complicated machines into the air, moving those machines to a desired location, and bringing those machines back down to earth with both passengers and property intact. None of that qualifies them to be Carl Sagan.Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-88798434356167958732019-07-04T06:50:57.183-07:002019-07-04T06:50:57.183-07:00Then there was the Air Canada pilot a few years ag...Then there was the Air Canada pilot a few years ago, who woke up from his nap, took over from his co-pilot, saw Venus straight ahead outside his window, and put the plane into a steep nose-dive, injuring a few passengers in the process. So much for 'trained observers'. <br /><br />https://www.cnet.com/news/pilot-mistakes-venus-for-plane-sends-own-plane-into-dive/Trekkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-63485319323171345112019-07-03T16:51:01.935-07:002019-07-03T16:51:01.935-07:00The offer to partially subsidize your 'reading...The offer to partially subsidize your 'reading for comprehension' course still stands. <br /><br />Are these the kinds of 'trained observers' you say pilots are?<br /><br />https://web.archive.org/web/20030502043109/http://www.zipworld.com.au/~psmith/pilot-ufos.html<br />jim oberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12436887304980795874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-21214053386368771212019-07-03T14:18:11.360-07:002019-07-03T14:18:11.360-07:00I guess those highly trained, over paid pilots oug...I guess those highly trained, over paid pilots ought to be fired for being so stupid. The should all be replaced by James Oberg from his remote control joy stick of a fleet of drones.Dick Hardernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-33693733328079992572019-07-03T13:42:25.894-07:002019-07-03T13:42:25.894-07:00"Trained pilot's observations aren't ..."Trained pilot's observations aren't observations?" == If there is a community college near you, I volunteer to contribute to your tuition for the standard 'Reading for Comprehension" course that most of them offer. The pilots had no way to 'observe' G-forces on the putative 'objects', only [at best] angular rates, from which G-forces could be inferred by assuming additional facts which were not observed. Pilots train to be survivors first, observers much lower in priority. For the safety of themselves and their passengers they MUST respond to the most hazardous possible interpretations of their visual input -- where 'false positives' are merely embarrassing and 'false negatives' can mean death. <br /><br />Several years ago, I described the ‘questionable foundation’ of Leslie Kean’s book as the naïve and unverified faith in pilot reports. She has insisted the UFOs show intelligent purpose based on the nature of their witnesses, since they behave differently when seen by military pilots than when seen by civilian pilots [when the more common-sense explanation is that different pilots report obervations in terms of what they expect from their own different experience bases]. The data archives she touts as ‘unexplainable’ pilot sightings [such as the French ‘Weinstein Report’] can easily be shown to contain numerous pilot misinterpreations of unregnized space and missile activity aroud the world, so who knows how many other prosaic explanations were never found by the ‘investigators’?<br /><br />See here [descriptions of factual/logical flaws would be appreciated, with documentation]: <br />https://web.archive.org/web/20190101223008/http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38852385<br />jim oberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12436887304980795874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-34975932308876605542019-07-03T12:48:15.381-07:002019-07-03T12:48:15.381-07:00Trained pilot's observations aren't observ...Trained pilot's observations aren't observations? This is great. James Oberg is changing the minds of the English speaking World! Someday that boy will really, make something of himself.Dick Hardernoreply@blogger.com