tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post1593951866749948723..comments2023-12-19T09:40:12.020-08:00Comments on The Emoluments of Mars: Steve Quayle, your source for totally wrong informationexpathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-88609188239672050352014-07-21T19:00:55.469-07:002014-07-21T19:00:55.469-07:00@Annonymous (July 11, 2014 at 6:03 PM)
I have to ...@Annonymous (July 11, 2014 at 6:03 PM)<br /><br />I have to strongly disagree that Coast to Coast or any such program does not need to be held at least somewhat accountable for the veracity of their guests and content. And that is what this is all about... complete lack of accountability.<br /><br />The program at least implicitly bills itself as a current events / alternative news / alternative science program. The host and guests spend hours selling their line of snake oil to a segment of the audience who does not have the education or analytical skills to dismiss this stuff, and who trust the 'nice' and 'honest' host to present respectable guests and viewpoints. Go to some of the websites of people like Richard C. and the only thing that doesn't defy interpretation is the paypal donation button. C2C asks the most vulnerable and lowest members of the socio-economic pecking order to 'empower' themselves by paying for books, lectures, guided tours, to support fraud, and to spend their time as well as sanity educating themselves in nonsense rather than in something that could actually enrich them.<br /><br />What is the result? A largely superstitious nation that is falling behind the rest of the world in innovation, science, engineering, manufacturing, economic development, living standards, etc. because the people are educating themselves in the wrong things. And it goes to politics. Just look at all the resistance to initiatives on such things as mitigating anthropological global warming because people have been taken in by fraudulent claims which deny it -- just one of the irresponsible lines of badly researched misinformation Coast regularly presents.<br /><br />I'm glad you have the wisdom to acknowledge this as entertainment, but I believe many listeners don't. The growing tendency of many media outlets to spread misinformation or simply to be unaccountable in researching what they do spew... and the resulting dumbing down of America and damaging of vulnerable lives... that is completely indefensible.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13690384599375956112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-60834097080668495742014-07-12T05:33:40.159-07:002014-07-12T05:33:40.159-07:00Thanks for the comment. I intend to continue bashi...Thanks for the comment. I intend to continue bashing C2C for giving a platform to incompetent, ignorant and corrupt people.<br /><br />If the producers were interested in topics in microbiology, there are any number of guests they could have found who would not have offered false information to their audience. And don't tell me "Maybe, but they wouldn't have been as entertaining as SQ." Quayle is merely annoying.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-75800147756521362312014-07-11T18:03:57.643-07:002014-07-11T18:03:57.643-07:00I have not listened to this interview, so I cannot...I have not listened to this interview, so I cannot pass comment on it's content, however I will say that to criticize C2C for not vetting it's guests or providing credentials or having a scientific rebuttal/debate is somewhat pointless.<br /><br />First and foremost C2C is a late night radio show designed to entertain, be 'alternative', be somewhat 'though provoking' and bring in a certain type of audience who want something 'different' to the mainstream. It is not a radio show made for and by a group of scientists for the purpose of presenting or debating data. Even if some of it's guests present themselves as qualified experts in their field, I don't think C2C is particularly billing itself as a 'factual science show'. (What they "should" or "should not" do is a completely separate question). <br /><br />As for the comment about what is in hangers at secret bases, unless you work in one or have imagery from one, I don't think anyone can say this is what they do -or do not- have and call it a fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-69363835092116321942014-07-05T16:44:05.543-07:002014-07-05T16:44:05.543-07:00He doesn't even believe carbon dating is accur...He doesn't even believe carbon dating is accurate, so it doesn't seem like he'd use it to support his conclusions.jourgetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-74120830635259146272014-07-05T16:35:01.291-07:002014-07-05T16:35:01.291-07:00@expat,
you may be right, though the fact that it ...@expat,<br />you may be right, though the fact that it comes off like his crap does not speak well of him. On the other hand, if the real Hoagland got that desperate for attention, he just might try to BS his way through it if he didn't think any grown ups were watching. I mean are the rocks as motorcycles any crazier than Data's head, or Edgar Mitchel standing underneath a giant glass dome and not knowing it? Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-50470273130640860972014-07-05T15:55:23.884-07:002014-07-05T15:55:23.884-07:00It's my opinion that this isn't really Hoa...It's my opinion that this isn't really Hoagland, but someone using his name to get attention.<br /><br />As crazy as he may sometimes be, I can't see him claiming to have carbon-dated a rock many millions of miles away.<br />expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-20053351478457623832014-07-05T15:21:32.868-07:002014-07-05T15:21:32.868-07:00@Trekker
No I missed that one, but thanks, it'...@Trekker<br />No I missed that one, but thanks, it's a doozy. Here you have Hoagland in all his "I can see artifacts in random pictures of rocks" glory combined with a group of commentators (from Above Top Secret no less) who are not buying his BS for one second. When you can't even convince people who live and breath government conspiracies that you have found something, it's time to reconsider your career options.Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-44238520148650565772014-07-04T10:05:57.472-07:002014-07-04T10:05:57.472-07:00C2C may not have dropped him completely, but I don...C2C may not have dropped him completely, but I don't think they see him as their science adviser any more. At the very least, he's not on there every week or so giving his view on the latest space/science news. Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-55009738980832218072014-07-03T06:42:08.424-07:002014-07-03T06:42:08.424-07:00Well, he sure ain't answering my e-mails.
He...Well, he sure ain't answering my e-mails. <br /><br />He's had these long silences before -- at one point I truly thought C2C had dropped him, but he bounced back with more of his balderdash.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-382701458528304032014-07-03T04:47:14.650-07:002014-07-03T04:47:14.650-07:00Is Hoagland hiding ?Is Hoagland hiding ?Binaryspellbookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267580272489277927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-19183693828227385432014-07-02T06:42:28.018-07:002014-07-02T06:42:28.018-07:00(2 posts from SR-71 disallowed because they had no...(2 posts from SR-71 disallowed because they had no useful content)expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-53419434640828858152014-07-02T03:45:53.211-07:002014-07-02T03:45:53.211-07:00Also, following Occam's razor somewhat, there&...Also, following Occam's razor somewhat, there's already a good explanation which A. has been given by Soviet officials and B. accepted by US officials and C. can be proven to be reasonable enough.<br /><br />Although it's not entirely impossible some more obscure ideas were involved about psychological warfare or even theories on remotely decreasing mental abilities, these emitted high energy beams ranging between 2.5 to 4.0 GHz would cause quite some electromagnetic interference not only to signals within that bandwidth but also would interfere with nearly every antenna or exposed electronic device, especially sensitive receivers or transmitters. Since the US embassy served without much doubt as some kind of electronic signal hub, relaying low energy signals from spy devices scattered around in the city, as well as satellite up and downlinks, there would be a solid rational for the Soviets to "harass" as that would increase the chance to observe or intercept other more classical methods now being forced in usage.<br /><br />Not sure why such mystery would need <i>yet another</i> exotic explanation. One would think it's getting in to "low tide" at Woo Station. Deenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-5541607349984634552014-07-02T02:50:14.691-07:002014-07-02T02:50:14.691-07:00My guess is the only reason he gets [pictured with...My guess is the only reason he gets [pictured with] so many females is because the world of woo authors is as dog-eat-dog as the world of male strippers. Basically they'll do anything for publicity (including being sexually humiliated by an aeronautical engineer/ancient alien researcher).<br /><br />I wonder how much "action" Mikey actually gets at these events. I'd say there's a fair amount of embarrassment we don't hear about.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354238783581166777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-48117322897553016862014-07-02T02:26:36.996-07:002014-07-02T02:26:36.996-07:00A few friends and I heard him on coast to coast la...A few friends and I heard him on coast to coast last night. What had shaking our heads was he backed up a lot of his theories with quotes from the bible. My beliefs aside, I had a hard time figuring out how most if not all of the bible verses he used had nothing to do with what he was talking about. After a few drinks we were cracking up and arguing with the radio. The man's a loon! But what else do you expect from coast to coast? This is the same show that interviewed a man who believes he has the soul of a horse a few years back.Sir Deezusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-52008651071336708342014-07-01T20:17:23.596-07:002014-07-01T20:17:23.596-07:00@ Strahlungs Amt
The pseudo-science business alm...@ Strahlungs Amt <br /><br />The pseudo-science business almost demands long winded talks. When you are stringing a line of BS, the more you throw in, the easier it is for the marks to swallow it. That seems to be Hoagland's philosophy anyway, his presentations are never under 3 hours.Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-50307339492098089802014-07-01T16:43:49.041-07:002014-07-01T16:43:49.041-07:00I won't be there, although I hear the conf. ce...I won't be there, although I hear the conf. center at Joshua Tree is very lovely.<br /><br />Mike will definitely be hoping for female fans. Possibly the same female fans he accused me of sexually harassing -- then when challenged, utterly failing to come up with evidence.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-75519479471279154072014-07-01T14:50:41.395-07:002014-07-01T14:50:41.395-07:00So who's going to see Mikey at "Contact i...So who's going to see Mikey at "Contact in the Desert"?<br />(I have visions of him out there getting his way with a bunch of defenseless women who can't call for help).<br /><br />http://contactinthedesert.com/speakers/mikebara/<br /><br />From the site (includes HUGE mugshot of sexy Mike)<br /><br /><i>Mike Bara is a New York Times Bestselling author, lecturer and TV personality. He began his writing career after spending more than 25 years as an engineering consultant for major aerospace companies, where he was a card-carrying member of the Military/Industrial complex. A self-described “Born Again conspiracy theorist,” Mike’s first book Dark Mission-The Secret History of NASA (co-authored with Richard C. Hoagland) was a New York Times bestseller in 2007. His 2nd book, The Choice, which concerns Hyper-dimensional physics, conscious thought and how they relate to the Mayan Calendar, Hopi prophecies and the current “2012 era,” was published in 2010.<br /></i>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354238783581166777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-31159006142616449792014-07-01T14:44:30.260-07:002014-07-01T14:44:30.260-07:00I don't know about anyone else on here but I a...I don't know about anyone else on here but I attend a lot of IT presentations and events. Rarely does a presentation go on longer than 1 hour and even that's usually 45 minutes to give people a break. <br /><br />Four hours sounds like a special kind of torture. I'd report it to Amnesty International.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354238783581166777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-28892153742282622752014-07-01T12:26:21.763-07:002014-07-01T12:26:21.763-07:00Why, you ask, do they not find someone to explain ...Why, you ask, do they not find someone to explain it who knows what he's talking about?<br /><br />Because no qualified professional would even consider talking to the mentally retarded host especially not for four hours.<br /><br />Of course you already knew. Thanks for gracing this forum with your knowledge.imaginenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-6045153330474876392014-07-01T11:17:29.303-07:002014-07-01T11:17:29.303-07:00He seriously went into the rainbow thing again? I...He seriously went into the rainbow thing again? <a href="http://podcast.sjrdesign.net/shownotes_107.php" rel="nofollow">I debunked that in my Clip Show #2 episode.</a>astroguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04807615605691873999noreply@blogger.com