tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post836558879784718356..comments2023-12-19T09:40:12.020-08:00Comments on The Emoluments of Mars: Hoagland confused about everything, including his own copyrightexpathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-70557890653810181022012-12-16T13:21:11.936-08:002012-12-16T13:21:11.936-08:00Expat,
Thanks for the comment on my blog.
BTW, it...Expat,<br />Thanks for the comment on my blog.<br /><br />BTW, it seems to me that Hoagland's hyperdimensional physics is alchemy... He transmutes new agey garbage into scientific gold by claiming that it's confirmed by his hyperdimensional physics!<br /><br />Did you like my comparison of the message of Cydonia to reading goat entrails?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235846531323511190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-32369060920975580772012-12-15T19:10:40.134-08:002012-12-15T19:10:40.134-08:00Bara is real piece of schizophrenic work,New ager-...Bara is real piece of schizophrenic work,New ager-old hippie antics for business, but when he talks about politics,socio-economics & minorities (especially Blacks & Muslims), the sleazebag stands on the right side of George Lincoln Rockwell Tara Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05238574438230091981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-66027350060764411692012-12-15T18:26:08.358-08:002012-12-15T18:26:08.358-08:00Flight Suit, I was thinking exactly the same thing...Flight Suit, I was thinking exactly the same thing! For someone who promotes the 'force of love', you'd think he'd be a bit more considerate of others' views, to the extent of actually being civil in dealing with those whose views differ from his own.<br /><br />The virulent hatred he spews when questioned or opposed is a far cry from the 'love' he purports to preach. What a hypocrite!Trekkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-9912273888688085732012-12-15T15:51:57.681-08:002012-12-15T15:51:57.681-08:00Mike Bara thinks there is a force of love which ma...Mike Bara thinks there is a force of love which magically binds us all together?<br /><br />I would like to ask him how he honors this force of love in his communications with other people.<br /><br />FlightSuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18424355892619234956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-28240954911145228462012-12-15T15:40:37.562-08:002012-12-15T15:40:37.562-08:00Your jealousy is misplaced -- I think we all know ...Your jealousy is misplaced -- I think we all know that "Misti" is a fat, sweaty guy in Peoria.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-2793046051957081642012-12-15T15:33:21.184-08:002012-12-15T15:33:21.184-08:00I have to confess I am slightly jealous of Misti P...I have to confess I am slightly jealous of Misti Parker, she attracts a lot of attention ;)Tara Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05238574438230091981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-48067059356977791442012-12-15T14:27:48.628-08:002012-12-15T14:27:48.628-08:00My comment:
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The effect you show is ver...My comment:<br />-----------<br />The effect you show is very weak indeed, although possibly interesting if correlated with other similar events. However, the text you offer in 'The Choice' describes, BUT DOES NOT EXPLAIN, other similar effects. You failed to elucidate the principles of what you call hyperdimensional physics so spectacularly that you made a total ass of yourself.<br /><br />This small demonstration is a million miles from doing what you say -- namely, proving that there is a force of love binding us all together. You are dreaming, Mike. If you want to retrieve any credibility on this point, you need to show in mathematical terms how Maxwell's quaternions explain non-random deviations. Go for it.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-8476977950674495382012-12-15T14:00:03.625-08:002012-12-15T14:00:03.625-08:00http://mikebara.blogspot.ie/2012/12/connecticut-sc...http://mikebara.blogspot.ie/2012/12/connecticut-school-shootings-generate.html<br /><br />New low for Mikey. Now he's using the Connecticut shootings to prove his goofball theories.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354238783581166777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-5820290465318001432012-12-15T13:16:15.541-08:002012-12-15T13:16:15.541-08:00"Misti" now posts:
"Your quoting me..."Misti" now posts:<br />"Your quoting me out of context simply proves my point. "<br /><br />No it does not. Your point is totally self-contradictory, as anyone with reading skills can ascertain.<br /><br />If you don't like me selectively quoting you, fine, I'll ban you outright. I'm doing my best to respond to the plurality of regular readers who have asked me to do something about your comment-flooding.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-53575874008305929822012-12-14T18:41:00.421-08:002012-12-14T18:41:00.421-08:00"Misti" responds, in part --
"Whet..."Misti" responds, in part --<br /><br />"Whether the majority or what ever percentage of images from NASA may or may not be veracious, is irrelevant"<br /><br />I see... or rather, I don't see.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-26760510495795913462012-12-14T17:14:26.197-08:002012-12-14T17:14:26.197-08:00Expat, if that image with its one centimeter scale...Expat, if that image with its one centimeter scale is not an example of obfuscation, then answer me this:<br /><br />Why aren't the once centimeter Martians visible in the image?<br /><br />I think JPL Photoshopped the one centimeter Martian skeletons to look like pebbles.<br /><br />The lie is different at every resolution.FlightSuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18424355892619234956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-31598410781227522082012-12-14T16:59:10.837-08:002012-12-14T16:59:10.837-08:00I don't see how anyone can possibly complain a...I don't see how anyone can possibly complain about the quality of <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/692147main_Williams-2pia16188-43_946-710.jpg" rel="nofollow">images like this</a>.<br /><br />THIS IS NOT OBFUSCATION, OK??expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-33575916541841462902012-12-14T14:56:26.214-08:002012-12-14T14:56:26.214-08:00This is the non-repetitive part of a post from &qu...This is the non-repetitive part of a post from "Misti".<br /><br />"They still don't provide an accurate gray scale for correcting all of the images from Mars that they release filtered in red or simply black and white. There is no way to know one way or another what is or is not on Mars from any of the data which NASA continually obfuscates."<br /><br />Once again I refer Misti and others to Don Davis, who knows what he's talking about:<br /><br />http://www.donaldedavis.com/PARTS/MARSCLRS.html<br /><br />My personal opinion, less expert than that of Don, is that the public information service JPL and Univ. Ariz offer from their successful rovers and orbiters has been more than adequate. Over 27,000 hi-res images in the HiRISE catalog now.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-32363319084664980642012-12-13T08:29:55.132-08:002012-12-13T08:29:55.132-08:00"Or is he just a fantasist grasping at straws..."Or is he just a fantasist grasping at straws in an attempt to remain relevant?"<br /><br />This. Hoagland seems to be on his last leg here. He's afraid to talk to regular fans any more, except through "Greg" from time to time. The only people he actually will talk to are sympathetic radio hosts or people who have paid the 50-100 dollars to watch his power point presentations. In other words, he's lost all confidence in his ability to convince even marginally skeptical. All his conversations are monologues.Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-5041106712548745562012-12-13T08:12:43.383-08:002012-12-13T08:12:43.383-08:00These are good and fair questions. There is defini...These are good and fair questions. There is definitely an element of fraud in his writings -- asking followers to "join the enterprise conference" is a prime example. He knows perfectly well that anyone who responds will be forking over $3.95/mo for precisely nothing.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-85477093210983382242012-12-13T07:59:45.711-08:002012-12-13T07:59:45.711-08:00Hoagland surprises me in how he can take something...Hoagland surprises me in how he can take something so freaking mundane, a shale formation, and "discover" miniature martian apartment buildings in it. I think it is highly unlikely that Hoagland actually believes anything that comes out of his own mouth. I've asked myself the question, "Does Hoagland make sense as a performance artist?" and the answer is, "Yes he does." I'm sure there are more possibilities than these but Hoagland seems to be either a scientific genius (cough), a delusional fanatic, a confidence operator, or a performance artist. I think the evidence weighs heavy on the performance artist (playing the scientific mystic rebel) whose audience is composed of both those of us who also enjoy watching 50s B-movies for the laughs and those whose credulity makes any distinction between science, pseudo-science, and artistic expression a moot point. At the worst he is the equivalent of a television evangelist confidence man like Robert Tilton, preying on the great "willingness to believe" of the "awake and aware" (or more properly, fantasy prone and easily hoodwinked) set because he can. The fantastic irony that NASA is portrayed as a secretive, superstitious, irrational, evil, deceptive entity when in reality Hoagland his ilk are presenting the superstitious, irrational, and incredibly deceptive components of the equation seems to indicate a black comedy of sorts to me. Is Hoagland just a character of a Andy Kaufman like comedian? Or is he just a fantasist grasping at straws in an attempt to remain relevant? Ricky Poolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961047550977479085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-10874555641728250592012-12-13T06:41:24.766-08:002012-12-13T06:41:24.766-08:00>>Why would the supposed shadow of the mast ...>>Why would the supposed shadow of the mast head necessarily be the same size as a human head?<<<br /><br />I wrote that it would necessarily be the same size as the mast head itself. The Sun is so far away that its beams may be considered parallel for this type of observation. <br /><br />>> How do we know that NASA didn't photoshop in the supposed shadow?<<<br /><br />That's an attempt to set up an unfalsifiable proposition. Unless you have specific information that this was done, your suggestion may be safely ignored.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-87342939314591839482012-12-12T21:27:14.044-08:002012-12-12T21:27:14.044-08:00Why would the supposed shadow of the mast head nec...Why would the supposed shadow of the mast head necessarily be the same size as a human head? How do we know that NASA didn't photoshop in the supposed shadow?Jiminy Oddbirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10550038114874559191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-5857043336470693192012-12-12T21:24:16.069-08:002012-12-12T21:24:16.069-08:00In science, Occam's razor is used as a heurist...<br />In science, Occam's razor is used as a heuristic (general guiding rule or an observation) to guide scientists in the development of theoretical models rather than as an arbiter between published models. In the scientific method, Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic or a scientific result. <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor#OverviewJiminy Oddbirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10550038114874559191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-14653692036343085332012-12-12T13:42:12.230-08:002012-12-12T13:42:12.230-08:00One correction though, the EM conference page was ...One correction though, the EM conference page was perhaps written ten years ago or possibly earlier but RCH actually changed several times BBS in the mean time. Here's some kind of time line: <br /><br />1. Started 1998(?) TEM BBS (twin forum of C2C) hosted by Keith Rowland until relationship turned sour. Free admission.<br /><br />2. 2001-200? Anomalies.net BBS, hosted by Rick Donaldson. Until relationship turned sour. Free admission<br /><br />3. 2003-now? Gototalk.com. Paid service by Keith Rowland. Relationship patched up?<br /><br />I might have forgotten something in that list as it's so long ago in internet years. Gototalk was still functional in 2006 but I luckily lost track. The conference page was already up in the early days referring to different forums.<br /><br />Nothing more to add really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-76146018718310644032012-12-12T11:36:21.512-08:002012-12-12T11:36:21.512-08:00This would be a good opportunity for Hoagland to s...This would be a good opportunity for Hoagland to start claiming that his theory has all along, from the very start, included two races of Martians: One that are human sized, and another race of Lilliputian Martians.<br /><br />Why not? He's lied in the past about his own previous statements and actions, including what he predicted and when he predicted it. Why shouldn't he "retcon" is own body of work and claim that these shaler apartments are stunning confirmation of what he's always known, which is that a race of six-inch Martians existed alongside the bigger ones we already know so much about?FlightSuithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18424355892619234956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-32059448360317229652012-12-12T10:53:26.651-08:002012-12-12T10:53:26.651-08:00Of course he was thinking (and wanted those viewin...Of course he was thinking (and wanted those viewing the picture to think) of large buildings. No one would willingly buy into the idea of ant or mouse sized Martians. Such creatures would hardly be in the business of building the huge cities and the face/mesa at Cydonia after all. Hoagie was just counting on not being called out on it until at least the end of the show anyway. Remember, the lie is not only different at every level, it's different at every telling.Chris Lopeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603182786879935663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-15231630407752837032012-12-12T08:57:02.371-08:002012-12-12T08:57:02.371-08:00Yes, I suppose he can't be blamed for attempti...Yes, I suppose he can't be blamed for attempting to wriggle out of his gross error. But Occam's Razor says those rock formations are sedimentary rocks, not miniature collapsed condos.<br /><br />Don't you think the fact that he put up a picture of the devastated office block in Oklahoma City as comparison is sufficient evidence that he's thinking wrongly?expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-91621534035059463062012-12-12T08:48:07.980-08:002012-12-12T08:48:07.980-08:00Heard RCH claim that size doesn't matter, the ...Heard RCH claim that size doesn't matter, the "Martians" might be little folk and the minute apartments would be sufficient. (recent Coast interview) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-26053253544162760772012-12-10T06:41:45.718-08:002012-12-10T06:41:45.718-08:00That recently-added photo provides a very solid sc...That recently-added photo provides a very solid scale reference, because of the shadow of the masthead. The shadow would be the same width as the masthead itself, comparable with the width of an adult human head. So Hoagland's apartments & motels are miniature indeed.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.com