tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post6888566458094402170..comments2023-12-19T09:40:12.020-08:00Comments on The Emoluments of Mars: Congratulations to the China National Space Agencyexpathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-83176393093684450052019-01-13T13:49:58.493-08:002019-01-13T13:49:58.493-08:00Scott Manley has a nice video studying the landing...Scott Manley has a nice <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEbg_dt3DM" rel="nofollow">video studying the landing in detail</a>, comparing it with images of the moon.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-16097972007787641372019-01-10T18:57:51.846-08:002019-01-10T18:57:51.846-08:00Some background on the target region, one of the m...Some background on the target region, one of the most interesting scientific AND resource-utilization regions on the moon, as scientists realized years ago == <br />Aitken Basin mission, “Astronomy” magazine, Dec 2005<br />http://www.jamesoberg.com/astronomy_moonpole.pdf<br />jim oberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12436887304980795874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-61231694966812197692019-01-05T07:02:43.891-08:002019-01-05T07:02:43.891-08:00Thanks guys.Thanks guys.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-68958755628826846162019-01-05T06:52:12.659-08:002019-01-05T06:52:12.659-08:00I have to withdraw my previous estimate of what we...I have to withdraw my previous estimate of what we were looking at!<br /><br />As someone pointed out on a forum I post in, those hills are insignificant, and we are suffering from the 'small, far away' problem! On checking the shadow direction on the rover, it seems we are looking south, so I had another look and came up with this:<br /><br />http://i63.tinypic.com/34pdu8w.jpg<br /><br />The image is rotated 180 degrees so South is at the top. The coordinates of the crater I picked out with the red arrow are -46.8049 178.3877<br />OneBigMonkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848865750227452987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-29533897452123718352019-01-05T04:03:50.436-08:002019-01-05T04:03:50.436-08:00I've been looking at other data sources for th...I've been looking at other data sources for the crater and have come up with this from Japan's Kaguya 3D data.<br /><br />https://i.imgur.com/h1v8CVA.png<br /><br />The yellow dot marks the landing site, and the hills in the distance are about 10 km away and are what I believe can be seen in the background of the lander images. The vertical has been exaggerated to make them stand out more.OneBigMonkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848865750227452987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-16464434031751004122019-01-05T03:58:40.707-08:002019-01-05T03:58:40.707-08:00FWIW, the BBC has a different pic:
https://ichef....FWIW, the BBC has a different pic:<br /><br />https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/5BFA/production_105064532_mediaitem105064528.jpg<br /><br />Not sure what the ghost is under the LH solar panel.<br /><br />Story: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46748602<br />Two Percentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-71803086566862579472019-01-04T23:18:48.063-08:002019-01-04T23:18:48.063-08:00CNSA are being pretty good at posting updates:
ht...CNSA are being pretty good at posting updates:<br /><br />http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/<br /><br />I believe they will eventually release everything - their entire image collection from the previous 3 successful lunar missions are all available on their website here:<br /><br />http://moon.bao.ac.cn/index_en.jsp<br /><br />You need to register to download but it's not caused me any issues.<br /><br />though they may take their sweet time about it if previous experience is anything to go by. their images from CE-2 are extremely good.OneBigMonkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848865750227452987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-745578917289719672019-01-04T18:45:07.327-08:002019-01-04T18:45:07.327-08:00Wow, congratulations to the Peoples Republic of Ch...Wow, congratulations to the Peoples Republic of China and the Chairman.<br /><br />This is a remarkable achievement. As respectable a world citizen as the Chinese Nation is the world as a whole is better off today than it was previously.<br /><br />Maybe they will bring greater peace to the world as our western culture has only brought conflagration.<br /><br />Welcome to Space China!Merv Ritchiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16134946212237537570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-408663936186612532019-01-04T17:42:15.470-08:002019-01-04T17:42:15.470-08:00Space James - that's good to know. The poor q...Space James - that's good to know. The poor quality of the first images just adds fuel to the deniers' claims of fraud and fakery.Trekkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-28829619479976035842019-01-04T15:19:01.814-08:002019-01-04T15:19:01.814-08:00@Trekker - There is speculation among Chinese rock...@Trekker - There is speculation among Chinese rocket spotters that CNSA will release high quality images and video. Everything I have seen comes from https://www.weibo.com/u/1822161445?is_hot=1<br /><br />SpaceJamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-53052821447761092052019-01-04T14:34:08.407-08:002019-01-04T14:34:08.407-08:00Landing site pic updated.Landing site pic updated.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-30917042998673221232019-01-04T13:15:35.495-08:002019-01-04T13:15:35.495-08:00Are you saying that the Chinese are too, weeny to ...Are you saying that the Chinese are too, weeny to be able to launch a, goddess of liberty statue, off the Moon?Aleck Schmartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-16422986167178218162019-01-04T12:22:30.145-08:002019-01-04T12:22:30.145-08:00BTW the answer to Keith's question is 31 month...BTW the answer to Keith's question is 31 months, cf. 3 months expected life. The rover could not move after its second lunar night but continued to gather and transmit useful data.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-65772325672958192812019-01-04T11:32:19.766-08:002019-01-04T11:32:19.766-08:00The grumpy old men over at The Hidden Mission aren...The grumpy old men over at <i>The Hidden Mission</i> aren't impressed, apparently. Keith Laney posted "chinese space craft = junk. how long did their last little moon rover last?<br />they're going to be the first freeze dried people on the moon in a loong time. people wow about china doing something... like they'll be any better or open than anyone else... nope! <br />We have private companies that will beat China to the moon with men."<br /><br />Vianova wrote "Lots of expendable Chinese taikonauts ready to die in punk-ass Chinese spacecraft. Trash cans with rocket propellant, and limpy gimpy rovers."<br /><br />Some people are just hard to please (Also remarkably ignorant).expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-86484111291717370372019-01-04T11:25:32.991-08:002019-01-04T11:25:32.991-08:00« a boulder large enough to devastate the planet, ...« a boulder large enough to devastate the planet, could easily be projected off the surface of the Moon »<br /><br />Easily? The escape velocity is 8,568 km/hr. It'd take quite some energy to accelerate your big boulder that much.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-53030069102622169042019-01-04T10:49:52.081-08:002019-01-04T10:49:52.081-08:00Space James, I'm surprised at the poor quality...Space James, I'm surprised at the poor quality of that photo. Is that the best we're going to see?Trekkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-27028910106135203412019-01-04T10:26:57.552-08:002019-01-04T10:26:57.552-08:00In the low gravity environment of, Earth's Moo...In the low gravity environment of, Earth's Moon, a boulder large enough to devastate the planet, could easily be projected off the surface of the Moon, and the Earth's gravity would draw it down at sufficiently, high velocity to simulate an asteroid impact.<br /><br />This scenario is presented in the novel, "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".Aleck Schmartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-9290153724950301212019-01-04T06:54:03.168-08:002019-01-04T06:54:03.168-08:00I thought Theadora's "boulder rolled off ...I thought Theadora's "boulder rolled off the edge" would amuse people, I allowed it to publish just for a giggle.<br /><br />Thanks Monkey and SpaceJames. I've added some text but not edited my image.expathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10369924104634464934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-50362773761807525932019-01-04T00:08:01.761-08:002019-01-04T00:08:01.761-08:00..and as an addendum to my previous post, I found .....and as an addendum to my previous post, I found a video source which zooms in closer than the photo I grabbed from the CNSA webasite. Overlaying that shows that they were definitely homing in on the area in the centre of the image I posted previously.<br /><br />https://i.imgur.com/tmlrB0j.jpg<br /><br />This time the image covers an area around 1.25km across.OneBigMonkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848865750227452987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-9986132605431370702019-01-03T23:46:39.707-08:002019-01-03T23:46:39.707-08:00Your estimate is slightly out.
I overlaid the las...Your estimate is slightly out.<br /><br />I overlaid the last image released from the descent camera on the LRO map and got this:<br /><br />https://i.imgur.com/0oZlyI6.jpg<br /><br />The centre of that image is marked on this image:<br /><br />https://i.imgur.com/MS08Biw.jpg<br /><br />and the coordinates there are -45.4564, 177.5963<br /><br />The image is still roughly 3.25 km across at that point, so there is still some distance to go. The elongation of the overlay suggests that the camera is at a slight angle, so the actual landing spot will be somewhere west of that point, but not by much :)<br />OneBigMonkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05848865750227452987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-11497879554511780802019-01-03T22:12:50.295-08:002019-01-03T22:12:50.295-08:00Boulder "rolled off the edge..."??? Ser...Boulder "rolled off the edge..."??? Serious suggestion: Get a book on orbital dynamics. Rolled off the edge indeed...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-88505365854557526602019-01-03T16:53:54.271-08:002019-01-03T16:53:54.271-08:00"a boulder could be rolled off the edge to la..."a boulder could be rolled off the edge to land on US."<br /><br />What??Trekkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-78680546062476242022019-01-03T15:59:25.282-08:002019-01-03T15:59:25.282-08:00Yutu 2 has begun its journey.
https://i.imgur.com/...Yutu 2 has begun its journey.<br />https://i.imgur.com/ya93Co9.jpgSpaceJamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-74440260995859208692019-01-03T12:39:41.597-08:002019-01-03T12:39:41.597-08:00This is great news, I hope more pics and even vide...This is great news, I hope more pics and even video can be sent soon.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08502701354589019386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8051630750074978974.post-64759832779866881612019-01-03T11:54:28.543-08:002019-01-03T11:54:28.543-08:00I have a funny, feeling about this. Today started...I have a funny, feeling about this. Today started out unusual for me from the beginning. If there were to be a military base established on the far side, it would be out of direct line of attack from Earth, yet a boulder could be rolled off the edge to land on US.THE Orbs Whipererhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08651754060614417385noreply@blogger.com